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chad caleb is here

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tomorrow i was i'm just hesitant i was

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experts are tracking a russian rocket

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within the next 24 hours that was

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the angara a5 heavy lift rocket was

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the next 24 hours it will crash down but

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character was part of an epic love story

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luke died off screen are you ready

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his outstanding lead acting role as

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luke spencer let's get to show cracking

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robert duvall is 90.

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today is 62 years old starred originally

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danger dangers ted paulie today is 58

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and our dead guy's birthday today phil

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and stevie wonder that's right he was

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the best it was phil who recorded

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marilyn monroe's happy birthday mr

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president to john f kennedy in 1982 phil

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recorded produce and released the

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world's first

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commercially marketed

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compact disc

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incredible he was nominated for 34

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grammy awards winning 14. phil died on

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march 30th 2013 from complications

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involving a surgery

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at new york presbyterian hospital in

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manhattan at the age of 79. on this day

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the first recorded divorce in america

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and clark

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of the massachusetts bay connelly colony

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is granted a divorce from her absent and

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adulterous husband

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dennis clark

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that's right here's your fader fact all

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right the most visited country on the

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planet is france

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who's number two

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spain

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and i know what you're thinking right

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now you're thinking jimmy this is bs

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this ain't right that can't be right

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you're thinking what about italy

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number five

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egypt

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isn't even in the top ten

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seriously

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tonight very special guest chad kalec is

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here talking about his new film 74

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minutes he will be with us at the bottom

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of the hour tomorrow night linda moulton

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howe will be here

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and uh

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opening up the show tomorrow night

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serena wright taylor opening up the show

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tonight

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ronnie mcmullen from life change team

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ronnie

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richard gere are you up or anthony geary

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are you upset

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that uh

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he's been killed off of general hospital

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uh well my poster was signed no i'm just

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no i i just uh i have to say soap operas

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never interests me ever even their hot

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day so

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it doesn't make a difference i know

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people are going to be upset at me but

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it just doesn't make a difference in my

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life luke and laura man luke and laura

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how about do you remember how big of a

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deal that was oh yes it was huge it was

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i mean it's it's it's crazy and this is

347
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the thing there's a movie out uh

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one of my favorites i mean not out it's

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been out for a long time it's called

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soap dish

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and

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watch soap dish it's great it's a comedy

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um but anyway uh characters die in the

354
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craziest ways right he was beheaded and

355
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oh oh really yes on an island in fiji

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uh but they sewed his head back on what

357
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yes he's alive you know stuff like that

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and uh

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um and they killed off

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they killed off luke spencer in a in a

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ski lift

362
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overseas right

363
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so uh they put his body back together

364
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they did yes

365
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he's back

366
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how you doing man how's the holidays

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happy new year

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doing good how about yourself you know i

369
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i am happy

370
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uh 2022 is gonna be amazing and uh the

371
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future is what you make of it and i'm

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gonna make this a great year and that's

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it it's up to me and i'm gonna i'm just

374
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that's it man i i am going to uh

375
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i'm just gonna ride this thing out it's

376
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gonna be awesome

377
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:06,240
wow now see that's some positive energy

378
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that we need to just plug into our

379
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coffee cup in the morning and rock and

380
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roll

381
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that's it i mean

382
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you know ronnie this is the thing and

383
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and i've known you for a long time and i

384
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know you share

385
00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:22,480
this mindset

386
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but

387
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one of the things that i don't like to

388
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have around me

389
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are people or you know friends or social

390
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whatever

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that

392
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blame the world

393
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it's your world you keep control of it

394
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right and then you have nobody to blame

395
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,039
but yourself but things go wrong

396
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right and and and that's worlds are the

397
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blamers yeah i i just it it just you

398
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know what i mean and that that's it

399
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that's it and i have nobody to be upset

400
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with but but myself

401
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so i you know i complain to myself i

402
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talk to myself and

403
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straighten things out but i don't blame

404
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,360
anything else and i will make this year

405
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a great year it's up to me

406
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it is it it and really

407
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change your thoughts

408
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change your world

409
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so if we're going to change our thoughts

410
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you know it's kind of like if you think

411
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i'll never get a better job or i'll

412
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never have a better business or i'll

413
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:25,200
never have it's probably true

414
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but if you

415
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,200
you know because you're you're putting

416
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,960
it right on yourself your perspective is

417
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:33,039
right on the crap that's gonna say you

418
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,799
know what last year sucked and this

419
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,559
year's gonna be great and you put your

420
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mind to it guess what this year's

421
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probably gonna be great it's going to be

422
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,360
great it's going to be great if it you

423
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know and uh

424
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life is is i i

425
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when actress

426
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,600
well yes yes life is tetris is you know

427
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just like

428
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:55,520
anything else you know playing guitar

429
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:59,280
getting up on stage uh acting writing

430
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:00,559
uh

431
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:06,480
getting a a

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a promotion you know all of these things

433
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,679
you you have to focus on that and go and

434
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,840
do it too many people

435
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:17,600
uh choose not to

436
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:21,120
you know or or or are complacent and and

437
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,840
then they see other people around them

438
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,520
uh happy

439
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:27,760
and they wonder why they're bummed out

440
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:30,000
go go and do something you know whatever

441
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:33,760
it is go go you want to surf go surf you

442
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:36,000
want to ride a bike go get a bike and go

443
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:37,200
ride

444
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,720
just just do what your heart

445
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,640
wants to do and that's the only way you

446
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,400
find bliss

447
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,559
a lot of people think that happiness

448
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,880
surrounds the ever-loving buck

449
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:51,039
and unfortunately even the millionaires

450
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:52,320
and the billionaires could tell you

451
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,760
they're not happy

452
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,000
so it's not about the dollar it's

453
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usually about us connecting with other

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human beings

455
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:00,880
and how we connect

456
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,840
and what we say or do and some of the

457
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,840
synchronicity that gets involved in some

458
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:06,799
of that

459
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,840
oh you grew up in such and such town wow

460
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,840
i did too you know that kind of stuff

461
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:14,000
and it really fires off some a lot of

462
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,600
our receptors

463
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,159
but unfortunately the buck kills the

464
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,480
receptors because then it becomes all

465
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,679
about us

466
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,640
yeah and and and

467
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:27,200
i think it's tv commercials

468
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,400
you know today

469
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,080
today it's everything else you know

470
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,880
that's involved with that but uh

471
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:34,880
but that's the influence

472
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,840
you know and yeah yeah i totally i

473
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,640
totally agree with that if if you chase

474
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,440
your bliss the bucks will follow

475
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,480
you you chase the bucks there's no bliss

476
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,480
right and so it's got to be it's got to

477
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,320
be the other way around

478
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,640
yeah i agree i agree

479
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,559
you know the people that focused i

480
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,559
remember you know years ago i had a guy

481
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:58,320
that i worked with and he was basically

482
00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:00,000
saying i'm going to be a millionaire i'm

483
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,120
going to be a millionaire i'm going to

484
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,039
be a millionaire he went from a job that

485
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,360
was pulling you know this was in the 80s

486
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:07,600
pulling 60 000 a year

487
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:10,240
to a job that was making 20 000 a year

488
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:11,840
his focus

489
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:14,960
making money yeah yeah yeah yep yep yep

490
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,159
yep yep yep and uh well not that making

491
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,240
money is a bad thing no

492
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,919
that can't be number one in your list

493
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,520
that's right that's right that's right

494
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:25,840
santa claus won't look at that no no

495
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:28,000
santa claus don't give a crap

496
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:30,799
just doesn't and and the other thing

497
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:33,520
about that which is which is why i love

498
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,919
you uh so much

499
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,360
is

500
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,520
your body's got to be correct

501
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:41,520
and and you've helped me for so many

502
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:44,559
years now uh get into shape i feel

503
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:45,600
better

504
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,799
um i gotta tell you i i i

505
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:50,400
kind of mentioned this last month to you

506
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,440
i went i did i always drink the tea but

507
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:55,279
i went heavy this month

508
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and

509
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:59,279
uh i've lost 10 pounds

510
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:00,640
10 pounds

511
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:03,200
um now part of that's the t

512
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:06,159
but the other part of it is and its

513
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:07,440
supplements is

514
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:12,000
you know just i just stopped doing uh

515
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,720
things that i don't really enjoy like

516
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:17,360
bread i don't like bread

517
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:20,320
i it's like i i eat bread or i used to

518
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,520
eat bread

519
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:23,600
because i thought you were supposed to

520
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:24,720
right

521
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:27,679
you know and so carbs and and i just i

522
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:28,559
just

523
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:31,679
it's i i stopped for the last month

524
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:34,960
not completely but big time compared to

525
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,799
what i was doing before

526
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:39,520
and wow man i just feel so much better

527
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:42,880
and i put it all on you ronnie thank you

528
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:45,760
well i i appreciate that brett will kill

529
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,919
you so be glad that you're not attached

530
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:50,000
to it because a lot of us out there i'm

531
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:51,919
a sourdough boy you know if i go to san

532
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,600
francisco

533
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:55,520
emphasis on the doughboy

534
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:58,159
yes i know i know i love garlic bread

535
00:27:02,870 --> 00:26:58,960
though

536
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,880
i love texas toast i like making my i i

537
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:05,120
that i you know but breads you know i

538
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,720
don't go to you know i don't eat

539
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:08,320
sandwiches

540
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:10,840
but uh but that's it i just stopped i

541
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,480
stopped i stopped so uh what's going on

542
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:16,400
this month uh to kick off the new year

543
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,080
over at get the tea

544
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,000
well it's funny you're talking about

545
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,559
breads breads can really jack you up if

546
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,399
they because a lot of breads have gluten

547
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,240
in them gluten can jack up your

548
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,840
digestive tract

549
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,360
so i thought i'd throw a special out

550
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,880
there that's kind of cool which is

551
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:32,320
colostrum

552
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:33,840
and

553
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,039
get some free shipping which is really a

554
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:39,200
good deal because colostrum's heavy

555
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,159
and uh and get a savings and so it's

556
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,200
beautiful beautiful beautiful product

557
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,039
um and get the tea you just go to

558
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,440
getfatigue.com scroll down the front of

559
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,679
the page and there it is sitting at you

560
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:53,760
and then we have the other one which is

561
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,559
olive leaf and tea and that's a good one

562
00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:58,559
too for immunity so

563
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,840
but believe it or not your microbiome is

564
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,840
dealt with with colostrum it's kind of

565
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,919
like a love connection

566
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,880
so

567
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,440
it's really uh if you've got situations

568
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,840
going on in your stomach in your gut

569
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that hurt

570
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um i would tell you colostrum's your

571
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friend

572
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i

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so

574
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we're eating stuff that we're not

575
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,679
supposed to be eating and not like oh

576
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,840
i'm eating bread or i'm not eating bread

577
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,440
more of the fact that

578
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,159
gmos is a genetically modified organism

579
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i've talked about this many times so

580
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it's something that's not of the creator

581
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,080
in you it's something that's

582
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:56,640
manufactured in lab

583
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and

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save the world they were going to feed

585
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,480
the world but what were they going to

586
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,320
feed the world with they're going to

587
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,559
feed the world with gmos

588
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,320
you know same thing gates is buying a

589
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:10,960
lot of farmland in the in the midwest

590
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:13,360
you think he's going to do organic food

591
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:16,640
i highly doubt it he's going to do gmos

592
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:17,440
so

593
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,399
and if he does organic food then yeah

594
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:22,559
good for you brother right right right

595
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,360
right highly see that happening so long

596
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,200
and short of it is colostrum helps get

597
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,480
the crud out of you helps you restore

598
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:32,480
restore would be the best way even

599
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:35,679
marvis marvel and marvin hagler the

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boxer

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who since passed away from covet

602
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unfortunately

603
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,039
he was a colostrum fan because it

604
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:45,600
rebuilds the cells in your body and

605
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,679
basically for a hard workout it'll

606
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rebuild you and get you going again so

607
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,559
he swore by it took it all the time i

608
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wish i could have had him as a spokesman

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yeah you have uh well you've got me uh

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you've got uh all of the tea is on sale

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right now buy two get one free um

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holiday special

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uh so you can mix and match uh

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you've got the pomegranate

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you've got the super tea you've got the

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flavor pack it's all right there on the

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specials page

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does all of this include free shipping

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for the faders

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yes

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so promo absolutely and then let me tell

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you something the buy two get one free

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is about ready to go bye-bye

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so make sure you get it tonight or

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tomorrow because it's gonna go bye-bye

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because it's the end of the month it

627
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would basically stop december 31st but

628
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we ran it over a little bit because it's

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so popular right right right right okay

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so this is gonna end uh in the next

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couple of days okay so faders head over

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the classroom and super t's right there

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and so is the super tea and olive leaf

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uh which is you know i do uh the olive

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leaf every single day everybody knows

637
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how much i love the olive leaf and all

638
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of the teas are right there on special

639
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there's a lot of specials going on but

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uh the buy two get one free

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holiday special you want to go and hit

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that right now all right and promo code

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fader will get you free shipping ronnie

644
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happy holidays my man you look great by

645
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the way

646
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yeah i thought i'd punch us in and look

647
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at each other this time instead of doing

648
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the uh naked voice thing yeah yeah yeah

649
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:29,039
yeah you look great man happy holidays

650
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you look good too you look like you lost

651
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five years off yourself you look look a

652
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lot younger get the tea.com

653
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that's what i do hey ronnie behave and

654
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be well my friend i'll talk to you

655
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tomorrow all right take care ronnie

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mcmullen life change tea go to get the

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tea.com head straight to the specials

658
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page it's right there all right so

659
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they've got the uh the colostrum super

660
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tea super tea olive leaf and then the

661
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buy two get one free

662
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super tease it's all right there promo

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code fader gets you free shipping on top

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of these crazy holiday discounts i'm

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your host jimmy church this is fade to

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up i'm chris what up this

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[Music]

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00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:12,079
welcome back fade to block i'm your host

760
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jimmy church tonight chad kalec is here

761
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,920
we're going to talk about his new film

762
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74 minutes

763
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tomorrow night linda moulton howe

764
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we're going to be talking about

765
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disclosure and

766
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2022 and everything else under the sun

767
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because linda's here just like chad

768
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tonight

769
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it's all things ghost

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00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:34,640
we're going to talk about his new film

771
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,680
74 minutes chad is a former director and

772
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,000
cast member of such popular tv shows as

773
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a e's paranormal state

774
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the ghost prophecies and verizon go 90s

775
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ghosted series as well as the

776
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award-winning documentary that uh and a

777
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,000
filmmaker that produced and directed and

778
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:56,160
edited films like american ghost hunter

779
00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:59,599
agh a blood red sky

780
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,240
and the sir no face series of films

781
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:04,240
we've talked about all of those here all

782
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:05,520
great films

783
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,000
in his brand new 74 minutes documentary

784
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,640
chad shares the most compelling

785
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,160
i'm going to let him tell you about it

786
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:13,839
i'm not going to get into it in fact i'm

787
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,119
not even going to do one spoiler tonight

788
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,720
i'm going to do

789
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:21,440
one two three four five six seven eight

790
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nine ten eleven spoilers i've got set up

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for you

792
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that's right i would like to welcome

793
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,440
back to fade to black the one and only

794
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,680
chad caleb chad happy new year my man

795
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,960
how you doing

796
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,280
hey man happy new year to you it's great

797
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:37,839
to hear from you man you look fan

798
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:40,640
frigging tastic

799
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,000
well thank you i have uh lost 150 pounds

800
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,400
it's taken about two years to do it

801
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:48,960
but uh i feel good i feel very good so

802
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:52,960
well okay wait wait wait you're right

803
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,359
two years ago almost to the day

804
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,440
we were at the rainbow

805
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,359
yeah that's right man that's right that

806
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,760
was a lot of fun yeah so since then yeah

807
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:05,520
two years ago

808
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,480
and i'm looking at you now and i've seen

809
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:09,839
a couple of pictures and i thought man

810
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:10,720
chad

811
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:15,359
he grew up on me he looks like

812
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,800
he looks all he looks all adultified

813
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:21,119
he looks all adult so that's what it was

814
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:22,800
150 pounds

815
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,000
and it wasn't even so much of like a

816
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,599
diet per se

817
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,200
it was look all of us are getting older

818
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:33,920
you know and you just don't feel good

819
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,119
and it was one of those things where i

820
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,040
was like you know what man i i've got to

821
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,040
get this weight off right and it was

822
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,200
really just about changing how i live

823
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you know and not

824
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not eating not drinking sodas

825
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,640
and just really um watching what i eat

826
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:50,720
uh we were talking earlier i'm not a big

827
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,359
exercise guy either i hate exercise it's

828
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,920
just boring to me that's why right so i

829
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,079
really had to focus in on the uh the

830
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,720
dieting and portioning and i knew it was

831
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:02,960
gonna be a slow process but my goal was

832
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:05,359
simply at the end of each month

833
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,839
whatever it is i just want to weigh less

834
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,240
right and my overall goal was 150 and it

835
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,240
took about two years to do it wow you

836
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,800
look amazing and uh

837
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,720
and this is this is the crazy part let's

838
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get straight to the film

839
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and i'll tell you why we're gonna get

840
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straight to the film

841
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um i'm looking at you now and i'm

842
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:25,520
watching the film

843
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:26,319
and

844
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,079
the film is the old you

845
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,160
so

846
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:34,079
what was it like

847
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:37,920
to go back and and review this footage

848
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:42,480
um and and seeing the old you

849
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,520
really weird especially because the film

850
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,440
i mean opens up

851
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:50,000
with you know stuff back in when i was

852
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:53,200
like 10 years old you know and it really

853
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:57,040
covers by and large a 25-year window

854
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:57,839
um

855
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,000
but i i guess what was so interesting

856
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,599
about it is

857
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:03,119
you know it's like at certain times in

858
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:04,319
your life you think you have things

859
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,839
figured out and then like a year later

860
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,680
you look back and you go man i didn't do

861
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:09,359
[\h__\h] you know what i mean right right

862
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:12,880
right so to watch all that footage

863
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:15,520
i because i know me like i can see the

864
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,839
way i react to things and how i feel

865
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,160
about things and it was really kind of

866
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:22,240
like this journey through

867
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,839
um this mental process of trying to

868
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:27,920
figure out what was going on and to find

869
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,920
the answers that i wanted so it was

870
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,480
really weird because in some of those in

871
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,200
some of those clips i i'm really almost

872
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,839
unrecognizable yeah

873
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,319
a hundred percent a hundred percent

874
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,000
the only reason why i know it's you is

875
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:44,560
because uh of the f-bombs that you drop

876
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:45,839
every uh

877
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,599
ten minutes but um

878
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,680
so even yeah even in the dark i know

879
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:52,960
where you are

880
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,440
yeah that's chad over there

881
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,680
um so uh

882
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,720
okay

883
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:01,119
now let's um

884
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:04,960
i i have uh a quick disclaimer both uh

885
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,760
to you chad and to the audience

886
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,960
um

887
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:10,960
i i went through

888
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,520
uh the film and i picked out

889
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:15,680
there's like uh in the film there's

890
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,280
probably 50 60 70 80 key things that are

891
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,880
presented in the film

892
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:22,960
i pulled out like

893
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,839
10 moments in the film that a either

894
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,440
made me laugh

895
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:29,440
made me pee on myself

896
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:32,319
or i just thought was amazing so

897
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,839
uh there's a couple of moments in the

898
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,359
film i'm gonna tell you chad right now

899
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,760
you made me laugh harder than than i've

900
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,599
laughed when when you're sitting it

901
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:41,680
alone in a room

902
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,240
and uh okay i'm just gonna say this i'm

903
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:45,839
gonna get to uh

904
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:48,160
uh towards the end of things

905
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:50,400
the pew cushion

906
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:54,640
dude i'm alone i'm alone in the studio

907
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:58,480
and your reaction made me laugh for 10

908
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,680
minutes by myself now now we're we'll

909
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,599
get to that okay we're going to get to

910
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,200
i'm just letting you know

911
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:08,640
that was an unbelievable moment okay so

912
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:11,760
but here's the disclaimer

913
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,640
i

914
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:15,040
was blown away

915
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,200
with the idea of this film in that i

916
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,800
don't think i've ever seen anything like

917
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,720
this before number one

918
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,400
number two

919
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:26,480
you chose

920
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:27,440
to

921
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,640
audience

922
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:34,960
why the film blew me away

923
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:37,119
it's your

924
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,319
personal

925
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,560
experiences

926
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,960
through your life's journey

927
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:44,319
that

928
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,240
on the paranormal

929
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:50,319
and that's that's that's key that's and

930
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,520
i was like

931
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:53,280
right now

932
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:55,440
um and this is the other thing and now

933
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,960
i've got the links up where everybody

934
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,720
can go and see the film i have that up

935
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,960
in twitter i've got it on social media

936
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:02,720
i put it up in the chat room it's right

937
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,359
there just go to h uh eight

938
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:07,119
a g h

939
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,200
television dot com

940
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:11,119
and you can go and check out the film so

941
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,880
it's all it's all out there okay so

942
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,720
there's no fluff

943
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:18,880
there's no filler

944
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,960
it is cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut

945
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:23,920
cut

946
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,319
and i was glued

947
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,119
i was glued it was an amazing uh

948
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:31,760
uh presentation and a great idea chad

949
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:34,160
great idea great idea great idea for a

950
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,960
film

951
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,079
so well thank you um you know the reason

952
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,160
this came about is one

953
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,800
i'm also a fan of just evidence period

954
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,800
so i've always thought like what movie

955
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:47,040
would i want to see

956
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,040
you know that's just a lot of people

957
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,160
make films and sonoface focused on a

958
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,160
piece of evidence but if i'm just a fan

959
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,480
of the paranormal and i just want to see

960
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,880
is it real or not just show it to me no

961
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:01,119
one's ever done like an hour and 20 of

962
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,000
straight evidence

963
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,520
be honest here and i thought about this

964
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:10,240
you made films that way too

965
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,440
right where

966
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,240
the the the the clip you know is it's in

967
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,319
one section of the film and you you

968
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:18,880
build the film around that moment right

969
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:21,280
and then it there's that moment you did

970
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,160
the same thing this is the opposite

971
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,040
this is all of those moments strung

972
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:30,000
together uh throughout your career and

973
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:31,200
and

974
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:33,040
that would that was a difficult thing to

975
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,240
make too because i had nothing to

976
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,880
reference you're right no one had any no

977
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,720
one had ever done this right for some

978
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,400
reason in the paranormal field the

979
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,400
people that have had these massive

980
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,960
experiences that have made them go into

981
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,160
the paranormal they don't like even

982
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:48,319
sharing the story half the time i mean

983
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,079
it took me forever to get ryan buell to

984
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,400
even speak about what happened to him i

985
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:54,000
know jay from ghost hunters has never

986
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,560
told like his story and i was just like

987
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,560
well listen i'll tell my story now not

988
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:00,880
only than that i'll put it all out there

989
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:03,920
like i i think people have an issue with

990
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,240
you know but what if i'm wrong what if

991
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:08,079
something is like i'm always like listen

992
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,440
we're going to be wrong this is the

993
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:11,920
paranormal you know what i'm saying but

994
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:14,480
in this in this hour and 20 minutes i

995
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:17,280
don't think we are but if if if through

996
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:19,040
peer review and getting it out there

997
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,560
someone can figure some of this out

998
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,079
that's great

999
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,920
because what we're left with the stuff

1000
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:25,520
we can't figure out

1001
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:26,800
that's where the one percent of truth

1002
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,119
resides and i think that's what this

1003
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:31,440
film also demonstrates through a really

1004
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,800
unique way of just showing every i mean

1005
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,920
you know how many clips there and

1006
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,440
there's so much there's so many there's

1007
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,680
so much material there and

1008
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:42,079
so the film is 120 minutes long it's

1009
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:45,920
called 74 minutes because these are 74

1010
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:48,400
minutes of uh

1011
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:50,960
of the things that changed him

1012
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,839
it's a lot of clips man it's a lot of

1013
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:55,839
clips a lot of video a lot of audio a

1014
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,359
lot of vvps a lot of everything so what

1015
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,160
i did and i think i'm pretty clever

1016
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,440
about this um i don't like spoilers and

1017
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,000
i hate when people do that so but i've

1018
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,480
got some key words here

1019
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,319
to mention everybody will have to go and

1020
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:14,079
watch the film to see exactly what we're

1021
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,680
talking about but i did this to get your

1022
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,040
reaction

1023
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:19,440
from these key moments in the film

1024
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,800
because man man man there there's some

1025
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,559
there's some stuff in here and i've kind

1026
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,480
of got it a little bit in chronological

1027
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:28,640
order i do jump around a little bit but

1028
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:31,200
i thought it would be easier for you

1029
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,559
for us to go through some of these

1030
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:34,880
moments in the film in order

1031
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:37,359
um because there's so

1032
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,319
much material there i thought maybe we

1033
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,160
should just handle this chronologically

1034
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:44,160
and it may help you

1035
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:45,520
because uh

1036
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,880
what i've got here isn't necessarily uh

1037
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:50,480
a direct thing

1038
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,240
and so um and now evps

1039
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,440
um

1040
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:57,839
the uh there's a lot of evps in the film

1041
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,480
but there's also an evp section which is

1042
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:02,079
really really great

1043
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:03,040
um

1044
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,240
i uh and there's also a queen mary uh

1045
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,640
part in this film too as well i think

1046
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,119
you know that i did a ghost hunt

1047
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:14,319
on the queen mary uh last halloween

1048
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:18,240
and uh and in the room upstairs that is

1049
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,480
represented here in the film

1050
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:22,079
uh the bar

1051
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,520
i had a crazy ass experience in in that

1052
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,520
room at midnight yeah

1053
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,520
and uh two things happened to me on the

1054
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:31,119
queen mary

1055
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,559
now i know that you've been out there

1056
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,200
like over a dozen times i've only i've

1057
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,960
been on the queen mary many times but

1058
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:38,880
i've only done one ghost hunt

1059
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:43,680
i came uh i came out i won the lottery

1060
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:46,800
i had a disembodied voice and i had a

1061
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,599
door slam and uh

1062
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:51,599
uh right there i mean like

1063
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,710
i walked out in the parking lot chad

1064
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,480
after that it was like one o'clock in

1065
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:02,559
the morning and this is what i did

1066
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:07,750
it didn't it happened this stuff is real

1067
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:08,480
so

1068
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:11,440
queen's legit the queen mary is legit

1069
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:14,720
and uh and a beautiful boat and and and

1070
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,280
just spooky as the day is long it's too

1071
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,480
quiet

1072
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:19,599
it's too

1073
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:25,200
you know i've had so many experiences

1074
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,720
haunted okay so uh let's get to let's

1075
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:31,040
get to evps because

1076
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,920
um

1077
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:33,520
this one

1078
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,960
there's so many in the film there

1079
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,400
there's a lot

1080
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,839
but uh

1081
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,000
i'm just gonna say this

1082
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:42,079
i hear you

1083
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:43,040
yeah

1084
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:48,319
what i loved about that more than

1085
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:49,520
anything

1086
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,200
is um i was in waverly hills with my

1087
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:55,119
friend adrian valera

1088
00:50:02,549 --> 00:49:56,640
and we were

1089
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,390
was he in that clip

1090
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:06,400
he was in that clip as well yeah no i

1091
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,270
he's one of my he's one of our best

1092
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:13,200
friends

1093
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,160
he's an awesome guy he's an awesome guy

1094
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,640
i mentioned everybody that i

1095
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,160
investigated

1096
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,400
uh with throughout this film and in the

1097
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,880
credits which was very cool for me

1098
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,960
to just kind of give that love back you

1099
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:28,880
know what i mean and be like i did this

1100
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:31,359
with this person here and here and here

1101
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,240
um

1102
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,720
but what's crazy about that evp

1103
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,880
is we had done our walkthrough

1104
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:38,400
and they had left

1105
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,119
like um tina had left and they told us

1106
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,960
basically we're going to leave the one

1107
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:46,000
door

1108
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,359
unlocked

1109
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,280
just make sure you lock it when you

1110
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,839
leave but the door unlocks and locks

1111
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,480
from the outside now before we went in

1112
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,480
we made sure that it was unlocked

1113
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,319
so then we come back

1114
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,000
in that little safe house next to

1115
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:02,559
waverly hills and the doors lock from

1116
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:05,280
the outside so you're locked in you are

1117
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,520
locked in right right we are locked in

1118
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,040
right that's about stopping us yeah i

1119
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,760
mean there's as we scale walls you know

1120
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,720
so

1121
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,240
i turn

1122
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:16,000
and initially

1123
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,680
we were watching

1124
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,359
what it's funny because this was like

1125
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,599
2005 so back then people were still

1126
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,680
arguing over what orbs were right so

1127
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:25,280
we're watching basically what amount to

1128
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,800
dust orbs and we're pretty freaked out

1129
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,079
because they're huge and we don't really

1130
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:30,000
know what's going on at that time

1131
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:31,839
so afterwards we go back to look at the

1132
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:34,720
footage to see these orbs right

1133
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:37,119
and we pretty quickly determine

1134
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,839
oh

1135
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:40,400
we're seeing like dust with our eyes

1136
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:42,800
but right away i remember

1137
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,559
man i had my headphones on when i was

1138
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:46,480
watching that and the first time that

1139
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,520
came in

1140
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:49,119
literally um

1141
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,160
you can hear a voice that's clearly a

1142
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:53,839
ways away from us

1143
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,880
and it yells out i hear you but what's

1144
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:58,640
uh interesting is that and i say this in

1145
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,960
that clip i say adrian and i are from

1146
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,960
los angeles we do not have an accent

1147
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,599
that's right you do say that

1148
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,240
you do that's right it is adrian in that

1149
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,559
clip now now i remember

1150
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,960
you you cut to his face and you make

1151
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,440
that comment adrian and i

1152
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,079
are from los angeles i'm gonna i should

1153
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,160
call him right now and get him on the

1154
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:25,109
no i'm i'm being serious no i'm not

1155
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,670
it was really it was it was shocking man

1156
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:33,119
because

1157
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:35,760
right like obviously where it comes to

1158
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,640
it it's partially over our voices as

1159
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,720
we're talking back and forth so you can

1160
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:42,720
hear that it's a third voice but the

1161
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,520
accent of it was so strong

1162
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:47,599
it's that i hear you

1163
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,599
you know and we clearly at the time

1164
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:50,640
didn't hear it or we would have

1165
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:52,079
responded have been like yo we're in

1166
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,839
here unlock us you know

1167
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,200
so it was one of those things that yeah

1168
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,440
we didn't hear at the time and uh

1169
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,280
chilling totally chilling and so you

1170
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,880
guys are locked in tina um uh the the

1171
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,040
owner's like a half hour away

1172
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:07,599
you're locked in she's on her way to

1173
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:11,119
come and and free you guys and that's

1174
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:14,800
well that's when all the drama went down

1175
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:18,079
out of out of all of uh

1176
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:21,680
we've all heard great evps but that one

1177
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,720
is one of the and there's some uh

1178
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:26,480
there's actually

1179
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,000
a couple others in this film

1180
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,240
that are even better than the i hear you

1181
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,359
and the i hear you is as clear as

1182
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:37,200
anything i've ever heard

1183
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:38,400
that the little

1184
00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:41,119
the little english girl later in in the

1185
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,309
dude that that was messed up

1186
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,200
i i had to uh uh go back and watch that

1187
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:51,119
part of the film a few times anyway i

1188
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:54,160
hear you so that was adrian valera

1189
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,440
okay

1190
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,040
all right i'm so tempted to call him

1191
00:54:02,470 --> 00:53:59,440
right now get him on speaker phone um

1192
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,480
now uh the next uh

1193
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:04,880
these these are your reactions

1194
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,040
okay that's why i've always the the

1195
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,440
reaction of the i hear you is just

1196
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:11,520
incredible also the i hear you was going

1197
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:14,800
on over your conversation uh too as well

1198
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:17,040
um it's just you and adrian there and

1199
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,480
then this is

1200
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,400
uh in the middle of it and you can tell

1201
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,079
it's distant like it's down at the end

1202
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,480
of the hallway what is it about

1203
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:26,960
hollow yeah it does what what is it

1204
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,920
about waverly hills man

1205
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,160
well you know what at the time that we

1206
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,160
investigated it what was really cool is

1207
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,000
when we first went in there

1208
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,880
like no shows had been there like i mean

1209
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,440
it was there was strep broken stroke for

1210
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,880
maya some bottles on the floor there

1211
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,960
were toe tags on the floor

1212
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,680
but it was not the big thing that it was

1213
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,680
uh it was super cheap i mean i'm gonna

1214
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,119
say it was like

1215
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,680
for i think we filmed a total of four

1216
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:55,599
maybe six days and it was you know they

1217
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,200
were like give us 500 bucks and you can

1218
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,280
have the place i know now it's like a

1219
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,200
thousand dollars like a person per night

1220
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:03,599
or some [\h__\h] it's like totally crazy

1221
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:06,960
but that place when we went in there

1222
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:10,880
it was so untouched when we were there

1223
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:15,599
and so raw and man i am telling you

1224
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,799
the amount of stuff that went on

1225
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,400
in that

1226
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,960
couple of days three four days that we

1227
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:24,640
went in there

1228
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,079
the amount of things that happened in 25

1229
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,240
years of investigating the amount of

1230
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,839
things that happened

1231
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:33,599
i've never experienced anything like it

1232
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,920
i mean it it was just coming man you

1233
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,280
didn't have time to catch your breath

1234
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,799
before the next thing was happening

1235
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,559
right right i mean it was it was just

1236
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,400
slaves non-stop

1237
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,240
and the whole premise of that

1238
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:46,400
um you know project was to bring in

1239
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:49,200
people that didn't believe and see you

1240
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,640
know how they felt when it was over and

1241
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,000
yeah by the time it was over people were

1242
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,319
like you know there was almost everybody

1243
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,400
had quit because they were terrified um

1244
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,000
but yeah waverly hills i just think it's

1245
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,400
so much concentrated

1246
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,559
depth you know what i mean in such a

1247
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,079
short amount of time

1248
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,319
i think that has a lot to do with it

1249
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:08,400
and uh whenever you have you know i

1250
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,119
think rapid death that happens

1251
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,960
a lot of time there's not atonement for

1252
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,119
things that aren't settled or negative

1253
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,040
things that happen a lot of times people

1254
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:19,280
actually have you know

1255
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,520
good experiences like there's a book out

1256
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,760
that i know it's about a guy who

1257
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,760
basically found his love in waverly

1258
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,760
hills got married and they ended up

1259
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:29,680
passing away in waverly hills but they

1260
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:32,079
found love in waverly so anytime you

1261
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,680
have these type of experiences that have

1262
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:36,160
profound emotional connections you're

1263
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:38,559
going to have hauntings and this is you

1264
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,520
know

1265
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:40,960
the amount of people that have died in

1266
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:42,799
this one building is tens of thousands

1267
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,440
of people so i think i i just think

1268
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,680
that's it you know and it also depends

1269
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,920
on the person it depends on you know the

1270
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,760
belief in the paranormal whether or not

1271
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:54,400
that veil of disbelief is there are they

1272
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:55,920
serious about it are they willing to

1273
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:58,160
experience it um i think a lot of that

1274
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,400
stuff has a lot to do with it yeah i

1275
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,680
kind of talked about the end of the film

1276
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:03,520
yeah yeah you do and i i think that's

1277
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,000
such a good point um

1278
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,559
you know you've got waverly hills and

1279
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,480
you know other places like that where

1280
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,040
it's obviously creepy

1281
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:15,520
yeah you get that vibe out of the gate

1282
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,000
right and and so you've got the setting

1283
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:21,119
you know about its past and if you are

1284
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,599
there wanting to and and believing in

1285
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:27,599
it's going to come and find you but if

1286
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:30,319
you've got some yahoo with you

1287
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:32,079
that is there to

1288
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,040
uh

1289
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,040
to have proof and if nothing happens

1290
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:37,200
tonight then this is all bs they're not

1291
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:39,040
going to experience a thing

1292
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,839
right now

1293
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,839
joking around and screwing around and

1294
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:46,319
like yeah yeah it's like there is a a

1295
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:47,920
seriousness to this

1296
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:50,799
and it it's rooted in belief and yeah if

1297
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:52,400
your goal is to come in and disrupt

1298
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,640
everybody and make sure nothing happens

1299
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:56,400
nothing's going to happen but if you're

1300
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,480
willing and open to the experience you

1301
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,000
can have that experience it's the same

1302
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,400
thing with ufos man it's the same thing

1303
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:04,640
you go out with a group of friends

1304
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,280
and you want to have a night

1305
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,599
you know sky watch and you've got your

1306
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,160
uh uh you know your night vision goggles

1307
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:14,720
and you're all prepped up and and and

1308
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:17,440
you're vibing and you got somebody there

1309
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:19,040
that is just

1310
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:20,799
right

1311
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,839
it it's just talking that smack uh

1312
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,440
they're not gonna see anything and they

1313
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,400
may kill it for everybody else it's the

1314
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,720
vibe that you project i i really do i

1315
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:32,960
think there's a a certain uh

1316
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,680
connectiveness to the universe that goes

1317
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,839
all the way from the paranormal and and

1318
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,440
when we talk about

1319
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:40,559
uh

1320
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:43,520
you know ghosts in the afterlife and

1321
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,520
extra dimensions and you get into

1322
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,400
science and physics and and all of that

1323
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,960
and then over to ufos into bigfoot all

1324
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,799
of this is connected man

1325
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,319
it's it's it's all

1326
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:56,559
it's all right there for you it's all

1327
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:57,760
connected yeah

1328
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,400
well i think the subconscious as a whole

1329
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,680
unexplored

1330
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,280
world i mean like our brains are active

1331
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:05,280
the whole time and we only we only know

1332
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:07,280
what a percentage of our brain is doing

1333
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:09,280
you know but it's all active so i think

1334
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:10,319
um

1335
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,160
it's i have to talk about how

1336
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,920
once you have a paranormal experience

1337
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,520
you'll start

1338
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,440
seeing paranormal stuff all the time and

1339
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,280
i compare it to the new co the new car

1340
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,119
experience like when you get a new car

1341
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:23,200
you suddenly notice the same model of

1342
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,880
everybody else who has one as you

1343
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:26,640
because subconsciously it's important so

1344
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:28,960
now you you it's scanning and picking it

1345
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:30,319
out when it sees it i think the

1346
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,079
paranormal is the same way if you have

1347
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,240
an experience and you know it's real

1348
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:36,160
then you're you're

1349
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:37,839
definitely more likely to see things

1350
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:41,680
yeah it's so funny man i i i get a jeep

1351
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:44,000
and then suddenly i think that everybody

1352
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:50,549
and i thought

1353
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,680
i was the only person uh that noticed

1354
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:55,680
these things but it's really true

1355
01:00:03,109 --> 00:59:59,359
it's really really true and and suddenly

1356
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,119
right your bubble is all about this once

1357
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,559
you are exposed to it and you know

1358
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,319
what's going on

1359
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:08,880
yeah yeah definitely 100 but i mean

1360
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,240
belief is i think key to experiencing

1361
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:14,240
all of this stuff let's uh let's take

1362
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:15,680
our break right here and we'll jump

1363
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:17,920
right back into it when we return our

1364
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:20,400
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1365
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,440
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1366
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:25,280
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1367
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,040
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1368
01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,599
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1369
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,280
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1370
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,599
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1371
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:35,520
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1372
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:37,119
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1373
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:38,079
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1374
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:42,079
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1375
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:43,599
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1376
01:00:48,370 --> 01:00:59,349
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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:54,559
host jimmy church tonight chad caleb

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01:05:58,290 --> 01:05:56,640
we're talking about his new film

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01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:58,300
it's called 74 minutes

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01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:00,000
[Music]

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01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,880
and i have pulled

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01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:04,400
some chad reactions

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[Laughter]

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01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:09,119
it was cool that you noticed that that

1481
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:10,880
you recognized the humor in this because

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01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:12,400
it was very intentional

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01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:15,599
a lot of it is very funny oh man uh oh

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01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:17,359
we're gonna get to that we're to get

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01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:21,440
okay now um actually uh it's the it's

1486
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,799
this next little uh thing

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01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:27,280
and i've called it louder

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01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:29,280
okay now you know what i'm uh hopefully

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01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:31,280
you know what i'm talking about and you

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01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:32,559
were

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01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:33,440
um

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01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:35,920
uh at this moment and and you were like

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01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:39,280
okay okay come on uh give me something

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01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:41,119
and uh

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01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,119
i'll call it a knock i i i i don't

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01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:47,280
let's just call it a knock i'm not sure

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01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:49,920
what it was but anyway

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01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:53,520
you you react and it was funny

1499
01:06:58,829 --> 01:06:57,200
and you turn around and you say give it

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01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:58,839
to

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01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:02,000
me well louder louder

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01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:05,760
yeah well so we're i i'm with my uh best

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01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,359
friend

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01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,880
and long time investigation partner

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01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:10,480
justin holstein when they were in the

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davenport bag and paper company building

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01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:15,119
which is literally built on the site

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where chief blackhawk

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was uh captured and that's how iowa came

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to exist he basically gave up the land

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01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:25,280
um the building's known for a long time

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01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,599
to be very haunted so i was actually

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01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,440
there in a week and visiting editing a

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01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:31,119
different film we decided let's go edit

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01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:34,000
in the haunted place and as we start

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01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:36,880
editing the ceiling there's just these

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01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:38,960
massive banging sounds

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01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,599
and both of us hop up and i'll tell you

1519
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:43,039
how long this went on and it's not

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01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:44,880
demonstrated in this clip but when it

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01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:46,720
starts out yeah you hear tink and i'm

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01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:49,280
like louder and it's like boom

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01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:51,119
i'm like louder

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01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:54,079
yeah instantly two as well just a second

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01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:55,280
later

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01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:58,240
or two justin yeah jenny justin dude

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01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,680
would you agree that's louder and he's

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01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:01,599
like yeah dude

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01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,000
and then we and then it cuts to us in

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01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,760
the basement right

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01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:07,839
well what happened was we had another

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01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:09,599
friend with us that had never been

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01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,839
ghosted and he used to always say if

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you're ever going near me call me call

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01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:15,440
me well we called him he looked a couple

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01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:17,440
blocks away and were like dude

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01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:19,520
[\h__\h] is going down right now like this

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01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:22,239
ceilings are beating on call and he was

1539
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,719
like get out of here like i swear to god

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01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:26,159
he comes down

1541
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:27,679
we hear the beating again but now we

1542
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:29,839
hear it in the basement so we go down in

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01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:31,520
the basement and you saw how reactive

1544
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:36,000
that was and it was terrifying we lose

1545
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:42,870
it was it was reactive it was responsive

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01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:46,560
uh it was on demand it was on call

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01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:48,080
um

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01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,960
your

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01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:50,560
uh

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01:08:52,969 --> 01:08:52,560
when you jump like that

1551
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:52,979
i mean

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01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:54,400
[Laughter]

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01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,080
right because

1554
01:09:02,870 --> 01:08:58,560
that's got to be scary as crap man i

1555
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,880
mean because you're not really expecting

1556
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:04,560
right a response

1557
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,359
even even as a seasoned paranormal

1558
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:09,440
investigator rarely do you get an

1559
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,960
intelligent response right that reactive

1560
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,560
so the thought that's going through your

1561
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:17,040
head is if it can do this like it can do

1562
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:18,640
something to me

1563
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:23,120
so yeah when when it's that loud on call

1564
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:25,679
and and it's on call four or five times

1565
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:27,679
you know like oh it's terrifying you

1566
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,679
know and we were and i always have this

1567
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:31,120
thing where

1568
01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:34,159
the more terrified i get i have a freak

1569
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,159
out session and then i will start

1570
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:37,920
giggling that's how you can always tell

1571
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,920
when i'm the most terrified and i used

1572
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,440
to say there's a certain comfort in

1573
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:43,279
being completely [\h__\h] when you just

1574
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:44,319
know like

1575
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,400
there's nothing i could do i'm here i

1576
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:48,480
asked for this it happened whatever's

1577
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,400
gonna happen is gonna happen

1578
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:52,560
yeah that's when i started giggling yeah

1579
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,520
that scene uh chad i'm being serious man

1580
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:57,120
so i'm watching the film

1581
01:10:02,630 --> 01:09:59,280
and i've got big monitors you know so i

1582
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:02,640
mean i've got it in my face right and

1583
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:06,560
and when you are asking for this

1584
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:07,840
and

1585
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:10,480
i'm jumping with you guys because it

1586
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:13,280
it's happening i'm just like whoa this

1587
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:20,790
what i love about that footage too and

1588
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:23,199
even when i watch other footage context

1589
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,199
is everything context is everything you

1590
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:28,080
can always tell if something is real or

1591
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:30,080
not by the reactions of those

1592
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,640
experiencing it and that's one of the

1593
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:34,239
most real pieces of footage you'll ever

1594
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,640
seen because we were

1595
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:38,800
terrified terrified man what's going on

1596
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:41,600
it was intense man intense intense all

1597
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:42,800
right

1598
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,560
now uh

1599
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:47,280
lots of uh lots of amazing stuff in this

1600
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,719
film but

1601
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:49,920
this

1602
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:54,159
i call it

1603
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:56,840
the dragging body bag

1604
01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,640
upstairs yeah okay now uh

1605
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:01,920
uh

1606
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,400
this is not a knock this isn't something

1607
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,080
moving in the back and this isn't a

1608
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:08,880
little thing this isn't a whisper

1609
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:11,440
it's a you know it's not no it's a

1610
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,360
frigging body bag

1611
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,880
that's what it sounds that's what it

1612
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,040
sounds like okay

1613
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:18,960
you guys don't say body bag in the movie

1614
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:21,600
i don't think body bag is mine everybody

1615
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,000
i'm not sure if it was a body bag but

1616
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:27,280
that's what it sounds like okay so

1617
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:28,560
that

1618
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:31,520
is a different

1619
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,520
that's like that's like right out of

1620
01:11:38,830 --> 01:11:36,239
hollywood it's like a a horror film

1621
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,840
and and that's going on

1622
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:40,400
yeah castle

1623
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,880
and uh my team was there and that was

1624
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:44,960
during a blood red sky

1625
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,600
and um thank god karen o'keefe was there

1626
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,679
as well too who's the most skeptical

1627
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,600
human being ever

1628
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:53,760
and you can see we're just having a

1629
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:55,760
conversation at that time

1630
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:58,239
about justin who was off doing his

1631
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:01,199
experiment and it just happened and from

1632
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,159
above us it's just this massive sound

1633
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:06,000
and and you're exactly right that's what

1634
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:07,280
it sounded like like somebody was

1635
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:09,199
dragging a body bag

1636
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:12,400
but it was so loud and it came from

1637
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:14,400
everywhere above us

1638
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:16,080
and again you see me freaking and you

1639
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:17,600
see kieran

1640
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:19,760
come just shocked to the point where

1641
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:21,760
he's literally going he's turning to me

1642
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,280
going like i heard that right i was

1643
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,199
above us right like i heard that right

1644
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,960
i'm like no yeah you heard that man i

1645
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,120
mean i heard every i mean it stopped

1646
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:30,800
everything in the room

1647
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:33,360
and we're just staring up like

1648
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:34,400
so

1649
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,080
he's

1650
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:38,719
it lasts for like five or ten seconds

1651
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:40,719
it's not a quick thing

1652
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:44,000
and it goes across the ceiling watching

1653
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:46,640
you guys you guys are looking

1654
01:12:50,229 --> 01:12:47,600
at it

1655
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:50,239
like move across the ceiling yeah yeah

1656
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,920
yeah we're tracking it it came from

1657
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,120
above us

1658
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:56,080
and it it did move from like one side to

1659
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,360
the other

1660
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:59,040
but it was almost like when you have if

1661
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,040
you ever had you know been editing and

1662
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:03,679
you put like a uh like a fader from one

1663
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:05,679
side to the other yeah that's kind of

1664
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,840
what it was like yeah it all came from

1665
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,800
above

1666
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,640
but it was just like this

1667
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:12,880
massive panning sound and what was

1668
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:15,280
really freaky is graham who is who runs

1669
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,880
the place and keeps track of it lives

1670
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:18,480
there 24 7.

1671
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:21,679
he heard it too and he was like

1672
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:24,719
i have no idea what that is now do you

1673
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:25,920
i'm like

1674
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:28,159
who who do you make go upstairs and

1675
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:30,640
check it out because i know you don't go

1676
01:13:36,229 --> 01:13:34,159
i'm not going no i went

1677
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,239
and yeah i went and i went with kieran

1678
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,280
and we went up uh just to see and

1679
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:41,600
it never happened before after

1680
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:44,880
um it happened at a time where joey was

1681
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:47,360
absolutely freaking out about

1682
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,840
the invest or the experiment that he was

1683
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:51,600
going that he thought he was going to

1684
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,719
have to do

1685
01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:54,960
and it was one of those that whole film

1686
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:56,960
was about

1687
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:00,080
how responsive are things in relation to

1688
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,880
what we are going through mentally and

1689
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:04,640
the more and more

1690
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:08,000
joey his fear and anxiety and resentment

1691
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:10,480
for even being there continued to build

1692
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:11,920
and build and build the more and more

1693
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,440
things began to happen so at that time

1694
01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:17,199
kieran and i because we were so certain

1695
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:18,400
of what we heard

1696
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:20,000
yeah we went up through every floor

1697
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:22,000
above us which was there was only two at

1698
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,920
the time and i mean there was nothing

1699
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:25,760
there's nothing i mean and and what

1700
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,640
could move and sound that you hear the

1701
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:30,000
base of it

1702
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:32,320
and yeah i mean it's massive it's big

1703
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,120
and heavy and and whatever's dragging it

1704
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,400
is is is bigger

1705
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,040
yeah right right exactly

1706
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:43,040
um and yeah there was nothing man there

1707
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,800
was there was nothing anywhere and

1708
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:46,400
graham had never heard that before

1709
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:47,199
either

1710
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:51,360
that was just unreal they're um uh

1711
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:53,600
a little side note

1712
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:54,880
they're um

1713
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,600
you've seen the movie labyrinth right

1714
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:59,199
david bowie

1715
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,679
yes long time ago okay yeah yeah in the

1716
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:03,360
movie you know the little goblins the

1717
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:04,640
little creatures

1718
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:07,040
are always scurrying in the background

1719
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:10,000
and you don't see them you hear them

1720
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,800
right

1721
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:12,640
and um

1722
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:15,600
and and i always think about that and

1723
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,480
uh

1724
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:18,719
a couple of weeks ago maybe a month ago

1725
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,480
i'm on i'm at night i'm on my back patio

1726
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:24,480
uh with my night vision i've got all the

1727
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:26,480
lights off i'm by myself

1728
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:30,960
and behind me i'm in a a patio chair

1729
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:33,280
behind me where the house is

1730
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:35,040
i hear

1731
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,400
something

1732
01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:39,600
run along the bottom of the house

1733
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,760
behind me i hear it from my left ear

1734
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,840
runs all the way the length of the house

1735
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:45,360
pretty fast

1736
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:48,239
right now it was probably a lizard i

1737
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,360
live in the desert you know it's not

1738
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:51,280
that big of a deal but it scared the

1739
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:53,679
crap yeah it scared the crap out of me

1740
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:56,719
and there there's a moment in the film

1741
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:00,000
and and the door part whatever

1742
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:03,199
which was crazy but i don't care about

1743
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:04,400
something

1744
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:08,640
ran in the dark

1745
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:11,440
so that's a gettysburg and uh it's at

1746
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,120
the tilly pierce house

1747
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:15,679
that's the one place they told us in the

1748
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,159
whole building nothing ever happened

1749
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:21,040
um when we were filming paranormal state

1750
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:22,000
and

1751
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:25,679
recreation reenactors where they dressed

1752
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,280
up like period piece and i was like i am

1753
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,040
not doing any of that [\h__\h] so i said

1754
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:31,360
that's right right so then afterwards

1755
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,440
nothing happened i said well listen say

1756
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:35,840
i'm tilly and i'm the ghost and you guys

1757
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,760
come in here doing a bunch of weird [\h__\h]

1758
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,840
if i'm her i'm gonna you know go hide in

1759
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:40,719
my room

1760
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:43,520
let's go there and see what happens and

1761
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,760
tons of stuff happened but as you're as

1762
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,000
you as you point out the weirdest thing

1763
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:50,719
and the sound is so creepy

1764
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:53,280
is i'm standing in front of a door

1765
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:56,400
and the door slowly starts moving and

1766
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:59,199
slams and ryan says hey was that you and

1767
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:00,880
whenever someone says was that you and

1768
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,560
i'm an investigation i always lean to

1769
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,400
the side of yes because i'm assuming if

1770
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,000
i'm near and i'm close to it it had to

1771
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:08,400
be me right right right so but right

1772
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:11,040
after that happens yes you hear this

1773
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,199
it sounds like the world's largest

1774
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,280
spider or something

1775
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:17,760
just scurry it's a gremlin it's a

1776
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:20,320
gremlin it's a gremlin and but

1777
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:23,440
wow so here's the deal everybody

1778
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:34,709
freaks

1779
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,910
because that is whatever this isn't you

1780
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:39,679
know it's so funny when you watch these

1781
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,600
paranormal shows which i love i love

1782
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:43,600
watching them and you always did you

1783
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:45,760
hear that you know it's a little

1784
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:48,640
oh did you hear that no not this

1785
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:51,920
that was scurrying feet

1786
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:54,960
running and bumping into stuff

1787
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:57,679
well i thought was this like a massive

1788
01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:01,199
rat yes yeah here like something i mean

1789
01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:02,960
we immediately afterwards turn on the

1790
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:04,640
lights went to the bathroom look there

1791
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:07,520
there's no rat holes there's no

1792
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:10,800
escape route and there's nothing right

1793
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:12,719
right and yeah that that was a

1794
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:14,960
terrifying moment because

1795
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:17,120
your head is thinking okay is this

1796
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:19,360
paranormal and suddenly it goes into

1797
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:20,960
like some cryptoville where you're like

1798
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:22,480
whoa wait a minute yeah yeah yeah

1799
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,400
monster on the floor in here like what

1800
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,480
is going on exactly because

1801
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,560
this is the thing though at that moment

1802
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:30,239
in the film everybody just go and watch

1803
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,239
it you have to because it's absolutely

1804
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,880
hilarious these guys are investigating

1805
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:36,880
the stupid moving door

1806
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,870
and you guys just jump out of yourself i

1807
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:46,560
jumped it was uh

1808
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,560
that wasn't even in my notes

1809
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,560
um i just wanted to bring that up it was

1810
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:52,400
a crazy part of the film okay

1811
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:53,280
um

1812
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:56,400
yeah the dragging body bag just

1813
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:58,320
go and watch the film and this is the

1814
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:00,640
thing everybody there is

1815
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,280
uh probably 50 moments in this film

1816
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:05,280
we're just talking about a couple

1817
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:06,320
and

1818
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,440
i'm not mentioning any of uh what what

1819
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,840
you may think are the the best parts

1820
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:14,000
these are just the reactions

1821
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:17,120
of of chad which just made me laugh

1822
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,280
um now i want to get to the queen mary

1823
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:21,520
and and the reason why

1824
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:24,080
the queen mary wasn't a reaction thing

1825
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:25,520
on film

1826
01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:27,679
uh you know it's not a video clip it's a

1827
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:29,679
it's a photograph that was taken

1828
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,600
but interesting

1829
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:33,120
uh to me

1830
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:36,320
was i was in that that bar on the top

1831
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:38,080
floor of the queen mary

1832
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:42,800
and in that room uh where the okay so

1833
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:46,239
uh this picture you have to see the film

1834
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:48,159
and and you can go and see it

1835
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:49,040
um

1836
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:51,280
it's not the picture

1837
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:52,480
for me

1838
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:55,040
okay and the picture is uh

1839
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:56,640
taken of the bar

1840
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:59,440
so what happened to me there chad um so

1841
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:01,360
you know where the bar is in the back of

1842
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:04,400
the room on the opposite side there's a

1843
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,600
door that leads to two bathrooms a men

1844
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:09,360
and woman's bathroom

1845
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:12,400
that unless you knew that it was there

1846
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:14,960
you probably wouldn't have known and i

1847
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:17,360
was filming in that room

1848
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:19,679
for this tv show for probably two or

1849
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,320
three hours and i never noticed because

1850
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:24,480
we had the film crew up by the bar in

1851
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:26,480
the piano right on on that side of the

1852
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:27,280
room

1853
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:31,199
so uh the lounge it's a lounge area so i

1854
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:32,960
that was in the dark and i wasn't paying

1855
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:36,159
attention so now it's around midnight

1856
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:38,239
and uh and you know some of the people

1857
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,600
that i'm there with you know susan

1858
01:20:43,030 --> 01:20:40,880
slaughter and

1859
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:43,040
and things so um

1860
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:44,400
uh

1861
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,719
there was like this little quiet moment

1862
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:48,880
and all of a sudden

1863
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:50,719
this door slams

1864
01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:52,960
over my shoulder and i turn and look now

1865
01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:55,520
i see the doorway i'm like

1866
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:58,800
what and we all freak so the cameras

1867
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:01,679
follow me i walk back there

1868
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:04,480
and now i see that it's one door that

1869
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:05,679
leads to

1870
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:08,400
a men and you know the gentleman ladies

1871
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,840
two bathrooms

1872
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:12,320
and both doors are closed and i open

1873
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:14,000
them up the lights are off there's

1874
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:15,679
nobody in there i knew nobody was in

1875
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,920
there i didn't need and and these doors

1876
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:20,159
are spring-loaded

1877
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:23,120
there's no way for them to slam

1878
01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:25,600
right so you know the hydraulics right

1879
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,800
they close and then they slowly close

1880
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:30,480
they don't slam

1881
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,639
and i'm trying to slam the doors

1882
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:34,800
and i and i really couldn't and i

1883
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:37,280
finally got one to kind of slam and

1884
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:39,280
that's when they said yeah that was it

1885
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:41,600
i don't know how it happened i i don't

1886
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,719
and i walked away that was a weird

1887
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:46,320
moment for me

1888
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:48,800
now that's just like that late cognac

1889
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:52,320
yes yes that was a spring-loaded door

1890
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:54,960
so anyway so back to this

1891
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:58,080
it's not the photograph

1892
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:00,400
it's the skull

1893
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:02,560
the the woman in the previous thing ever

1894
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:04,639
okay all right now

1895
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:07,840
um and i i i realize everybody can go

1896
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,840
and and see these photographs that were

1897
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:11,840
taken of the ghost lady

1898
01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:12,800
cool

1899
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:14,880
it's not about that for me

1900
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:16,719
it's this skull

1901
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,320
now

1902
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:20,639
oh you do okay good

1903
01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:22,560
no i agree i've never seen anything like

1904
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:23,440
it so

1905
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:25,840
um it wasn't even an investigation it

1906
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:28,480
was a it was a get together at the ob

1907
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:29,760
and there were there were lots of people

1908
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:32,800
there people we both know um

1909
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:35,840
and it it was i think a darkness radio

1910
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:38,480
event was either about to happen or it

1911
01:22:42,149 --> 01:22:39,840
just happened

1912
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:42,159
but whenever i go out there's you know

1913
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,840
photography that you do for

1914
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:45,360
investigating and there's just general

1915
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:47,120
photographer i'm a photographer

1916
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:49,520
so in there there's that back mural on

1917
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,080
the wall that is just absolutely

1918
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,320
beautiful behind the box it's behind the

1919
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:56,639
behind the bar yeah right behind the bar

1920
01:23:02,070 --> 01:22:58,800
so i'm just taking pictures and i'm

1921
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:02,080
shooting at the the back mural and

1922
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:04,000
there's oh gosh

1923
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:05,199
i think it might even been adrian in

1924
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:07,679
that photo um and there was a girl that

1925
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:09,760
he knew a couple other friends that i

1926
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:10,719
know

1927
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:12,800
and i took the photo and right in the

1928
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:14,560
middle in two frames now

1929
01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:16,080
what's really weird is i took those

1930
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,159
burst photos were to rip like 18 of them

1931
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:20,639
in like two seconds they just go

1932
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,719
and take a bunch of them it's a super

1933
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:24,639
super fast shutter speed

1934
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:26,080
so

1935
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:28,159
right in the middle of those there's two

1936
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:31,679
photos with what appears to be a woman

1937
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:34,239
that is standing directly in between

1938
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:36,480
like me and the next table and she's

1939
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,520
trying to you can see through her

1940
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,600
yes she's just somebody else yeah yeah

1941
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:43,760
it's a pretty strange picture it's a

1942
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:45,920
really strange photo and especially for

1943
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,880
somebody like i take i've taken

1944
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:51,120
a million photos like i know digital

1945
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:53,040
artifacts and then i know

1946
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,800
things that shouldn't be there this

1947
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,080
shouldn't be there

1948
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,840
and it's in two frames and you can

1949
01:24:01,750 --> 01:23:59,760
actually see it move like when you put

1950
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:01,760
them side by side you could see but

1951
01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:05,600
she's moving the ghost lady is moving

1952
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:07,199
towards this girl sitting to the left of

1953
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:10,239
me and what's super bizarre is in the

1954
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:12,000
second photo as she gets right up

1955
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:14,000
against her

1956
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:16,560
you can see what appears to be it's

1957
01:24:21,910 --> 01:24:18,880
almost like if the skull of her

1958
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:21,920
it just doesn't appear to be it happens

1959
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,480
so what's her name yeah

1960
01:24:29,430 --> 01:24:26,880
uh no i can't really i can't remember

1961
01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:29,440
either okay so she's she's in the

1962
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,239
picture so in the other in the other in

1963
01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:34,719
the other pictures it's her normal face

1964
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,679
uh

1965
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:38,320
you see her in other shots

1966
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:42,080
and and it's she just she's blonde and

1967
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:45,920
and young and and in in in focus

1968
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:48,880
and she's looking in the camera and then

1969
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,320
this next shot

1970
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:54,480
her face is a skull

1971
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:01,990
it doesn't make any sense

1972
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:03,920
it's like i say that in a film too i say

1973
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:06,239
i don't even have a theory as to what

1974
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:09,440
this is you know that is very i mean

1975
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:11,679
that is frightening what did she how

1976
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,360
what was her reaction to that

1977
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:17,120
i i don't that's the only night i ever

1978
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,199
came across her met her she knew she

1979
01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:21,199
knew adrian i think or somebody else

1980
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,639
that was there because she just came and

1981
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:24,560
had a couple drinks with us and we put

1982
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:26,880
that photo out probably 16 years ago i

1983
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,480
mean it was that long ago when i think

1984
01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:30,880
about it um so i don't know what her

1985
01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,639
ultimate reaction was but it was it was

1986
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:36,560
mind-bending it was the most fascinating

1987
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:39,760
thing i've ever seen in a digital photo

1988
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:42,159
of something that was paranormal because

1989
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:43,760
i i don't know

1990
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:46,560
like i literally like i'm a film like i

1991
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:49,199
know how things you know occur with

1992
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:52,560
camera as an artifact but i don't have

1993
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,600
a single idea how an artifact could

1994
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:56,960
happen

1995
01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:59,679
that could replace a person's face

1996
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:02,000
with what appears to be like a skeletor

1997
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:04,400
it's like an x-ray it's like an x-ray

1998
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:06,800
yeah and it's literally below her hair

1999
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:08,159
it's like you can see the hair coming

2000
01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:09,440
down in front of it

2001
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:12,159
so i it's it's mind-bending it's

2002
01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:14,000
it's a crazy shot you know what i'm

2003
01:26:18,709 --> 01:26:15,520
going to uh

2004
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:18,719
i'm going to reach out to adrian and and

2005
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:22,000
see if he is in contact with her i think

2006
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:23,840
she needs to see that shot i wanna i'm

2007
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:27,280
on her reaction you know and uh

2008
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,120
i mean did anything

2009
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:31,120
it's almost like a grim reaper kind of

2010
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,040
thing and i don't want to

2011
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:35,280
i you know i don't want to jinx or or

2012
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:38,320
mess anything up but uh

2013
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:41,040
you know what was did did she see any

2014
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:44,320
ghost after that did anything parallel

2015
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:46,480
we weren't we weren't investigating that

2016
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:48,639
no i'm talking about it in her in her

2017
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:53,990
did anything strange happen after that

2018
01:26:59,270 --> 01:26:54,880
he would

2019
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:59,280
yeah well like i said i i believe she

2020
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:01,199
was his friend well she had to because

2021
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:03,199
she was sitting at the table next to us

2022
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:06,080
so um but i but it was

2023
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:07,760
i've just taken a thousand quote

2024
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:09,760
paranormal photos and i've never seen

2025
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:11,360
anything like that

2026
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:14,400
um so that was shocking and to this day

2027
01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:15,679
still shocked and you know what's even

2028
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:18,239
weirder is after when you first put that

2029
01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:19,280
out

2030
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:22,239
i didn't even notice that until i was at

2031
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:23,520
an event

2032
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:25,360
and i was showing people different ghost

2033
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:27,360
photos and somebody from the audience

2034
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:29,920
said what's up with the skull

2035
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:31,199
i'm like what are you talking about and

2036
01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:33,440
the second they said it again once it's

2037
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,080
in my head right i was like whoa

2038
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:37,760
what is that

2039
01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:39,120
and then yeah i went back and looked at

2040
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:41,760
it i was completely blown away i paused

2041
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:44,080
the screen and and looked at that then i

2042
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:47,199
went back and looked at her normal

2043
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:50,639
and it's uh it's like an x-ray i don't

2044
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:53,440
know how to explain it that is a crazy

2045
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:54,480
crazy

2046
01:27:57,990 --> 01:27:57,040
that is that is paranormal activity

2047
01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:58,000
and

2048
01:28:01,910 --> 01:27:59,600
it's too bad that we didn't get your

2049
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:01,920
reaction on film there i just wanted to

2050
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:03,280
mention that because

2051
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:05,840
of uh the queen mary and uh we've got

2052
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:07,600
two minutes before the break so i wanted

2053
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:09,360
to mention one other thing

2054
01:28:14,229 --> 01:28:12,880
and i wonder if you um we went down and

2055
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:14,239
had something like this happen on the

2056
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:16,960
queen mary we went to the winston

2057
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,679
churchill suite below decks

2058
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:21,520
have you been in that room i'm sure you

2059
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:23,840
have i have okay so

2060
01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:26,080
i'm in there with tony rathman i'm sure

2061
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:27,280
you know tony

2062
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,440
and his wife sheree great great ghost

2063
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:31,440
hunters and and susan slaughter's in

2064
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:33,679
there with me she's great and we had

2065
01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:36,400
like ten people plus we had uh

2066
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,080
three cameras

2067
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:40,800
uh to my right three camera people and

2068
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,760
with cameras and then the sound person

2069
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:44,960
sound guy

2070
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:47,360
is directly to my right he's got the

2071
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,000
boom going overhead so there's like 10

2072
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:51,600
or 12 of us

2073
01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:53,120
in this suite

2074
01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:55,199
and this is what happens

2075
01:29:03,990 --> 01:28:59,440
at a moment of dead silence

2076
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,000
i heard a female voice go

2077
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:06,000
hmm

2078
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:08,159
and it came from

2079
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:09,280
up here

2080
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:12,159
now tony rathman and we're sitting there

2081
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,560
with his ghost box

2082
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:16,080
thing right

2083
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:18,000
and uh and tony's sitting in front of me

2084
01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:20,480
facing me his wife is here cherie

2085
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:23,920
and i see tony and i both look yeah he

2086
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,440
looks up above

2087
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:27,120
he hears it too

2088
01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:28,000
so

2089
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:29,840
he well everybody in the room heard it

2090
01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:31,920
but he looked in the same direction i

2091
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:33,600
looked this way he looked up that way

2092
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:35,040
over his shoulder

2093
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:37,440
and then he looks at me like

2094
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:38,480
right

2095
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:40,159
and

2096
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:42,000
it was loud

2097
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:43,920
it was pure

2098
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:45,679
it was direct

2099
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:48,320
and i turned to my sound guy and i go

2100
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:50,320
was that you and he goes

2101
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:51,280
nope

2102
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:52,960
right i said no

2103
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:56,480
definitely wasn't you and it was like uh

2104
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:57,600
uh

2105
01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:00,320
a perfect female

2106
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:02,080
i can't do a female voice obviously i

2107
01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:04,840
don't have the pipe sport but it was a

2108
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,760
hmm and it was loud man it wasn't it

2109
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:10,000
wasn't like a whisper

2110
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:12,159
when that stuff happens it it's so it's

2111
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,920
such a cool experience because there's

2112
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:15,520
things that you present to the public

2113
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:17,679
like this whole film was made

2114
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:19,360
to be a leaning experience what i mean

2115
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:21,199
by that is a lot of my other films it's

2116
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:23,040
a long methodical storytelling process

2117
01:30:26,470 --> 01:30:24,719
where you kind of lean back and sit back

2118
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:26,480
and get into it where this is meant to

2119
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:29,199
like stop and rewind and look and just

2120
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:31,040
and there's a difference between that

2121
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:32,480
stuff and the stuff that you experience

2122
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:35,920
yourself and you know from you right and

2123
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:38,480
it's the the ground between what i know

2124
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:40,560
for me and what i present is so far

2125
01:30:45,669 --> 01:30:43,840
apart but when you know you know

2126
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:45,679
and it's so

2127
01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:47,920
powerful when you're in that moment and

2128
01:30:50,709 --> 01:30:49,280
it happens and that's what i would say a

2129
01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:50,719
lot of my friends are like so why do you

2130
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:52,800
you know go out this i'm like man when

2131
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,320
you're in a place and something goes

2132
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:56,560
down and it's real and you know it

2133
01:31:00,310 --> 01:30:58,880
it's almost like

2134
01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:00,320
touching the other side for just a

2135
01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:03,840
second it's profound it's profound

2136
01:31:08,790 --> 01:31:06,000
what's it like for you do you still get

2137
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:08,800
the same feeling when you hear not an

2138
01:31:13,030 --> 01:31:10,080
evp

2139
01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:13,040
but a disembodied voice right there with

2140
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:15,120
you in the room do you still get the

2141
01:31:18,070 --> 01:31:16,960
same reaction

2142
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:18,080
um

2143
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,000
look if it's loud enough or creepy

2144
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,560
enough or startling enough i'm a human

2145
01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:24,080
right so anything that's startling is

2146
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:26,719
startling but like for example if i was

2147
01:31:31,510 --> 01:31:28,480
sitting in a haunted house and i just

2148
01:31:33,590 --> 01:31:31,520
heard like footsteps or something

2149
01:31:35,590 --> 01:31:33,600
yeah i'm not it's not going to do much

2150
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:35,600
for me you know what i mean um just

2151
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:38,400
because i've just been around so right

2152
01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:40,159
but i'm talking i'm talking about the

2153
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:41,120
voice

2154
01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:43,120
you know so you're in that haunted house

2155
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,840
and get out you know

2156
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,760
yeah something like that whenever i feel

2157
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:49,600
like something's talking directly to me

2158
01:31:53,350 --> 01:31:51,440
or knows me

2159
01:31:54,790 --> 01:31:53,360
yeah that's creepy because it's like man

2160
01:31:57,990 --> 01:31:54,800
you don't know what you're playing with

2161
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:58,000
yeah you don't especially when it uh

2162
01:32:01,750 --> 01:32:00,320
demonstrates ability like when we were

2163
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:01,760
in the basement and those loud knocks

2164
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:03,199
are going off and it's responding it's

2165
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:04,880
going hey you want me to do this okay

2166
01:32:08,229 --> 01:32:06,880
i'll do it you know you're just waiting

2167
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:08,239
for it to go want to see what else i can

2168
01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:09,120
do

2169
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:12,159
you know

2170
01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:14,000
take our break right here this is fade

2171
01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:16,320
to black our guest tonight chad caleb

2172
01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:18,159
talking about his new film it is called

2173
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:21,760
74 minutes go to agh television.com

2174
01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:23,520
links are up in social media we've got

2175
01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:25,280
it up in the chat room it's an amazing

2176
01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:27,199
film i'm your host jimmy church this is

2177
01:32:34,230 --> 01:32:28,960
fade to black more with chad after this

2178
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:44,790
[Music]

2179
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:47,990
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2180
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:50,110
you're listening to fade to black

2181
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:52,800
[Applause]

2182
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:54,960
you're listening to jimmy church and

2183
01:33:01,460 --> 01:32:56,480
fade to black

2184
01:33:01,470 --> 01:33:13,189
[Applause]

2185
01:33:18,550 --> 01:33:15,510
this is jimmy church and i personally

2186
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:18,560
invite you to the 2022 conscious life

2187
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:21,120
expo this february 4th through the 7th

2188
01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:24,239
live at the lax hilton in los angeles

2189
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:26,400
california this year we have the most

2190
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:29,040
exciting speakers including whitley

2191
01:33:35,590 --> 01:33:32,400
strieber adam apollo billy carson daryl

2192
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:35,600
inca and bashar william henry caroline

2193
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:39,040
corey susan slaughter daniel brinkley jj

2194
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:42,159
and desiree hertox sarah bressman cosme

2195
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:44,960
george nori gayle thackray and many many

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight chad caleb

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we're talking about his new film it's

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it's a must watch

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we're going to go through uh some more

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shocking moments uh with chad here

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in just a minute i want to mention

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everybody tomorrow night is linda

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moulton howe

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and she'll be here to discuss a

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01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:29,920
disclosure in 2022

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and you're not going to want to miss

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01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:34,000
that tonight it's a chat and this new

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01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:36,000
film 74 minutes and

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01:37:40,310 --> 01:37:38,560
um every one of your films chad when it

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01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:40,320
comes out i mean they're great in the

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01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:42,560
production value and i think that

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01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:43,360
uh

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01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:48,480
you

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01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,320
very

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01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:56,639
uh artistically inclined and there's a

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01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:57,600
very

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01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:00,560
uh a cool way that uh the films are all

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01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,560
put together and they're all creepy and

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01:38:08,629 --> 01:38:07,119
and uh and they're all well done but uh

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01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:08,639
this film

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01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:11,119
is is right there man it is right there

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and and i'm gonna say even though it's

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01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,880
uh

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01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:16,480
it's you know it's like the greatest

2283
01:38:22,629 --> 01:38:19,679
hits uh kind of uh thing here

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01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,639
this might be your best film

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01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:24,239
you know i've heard a lot of people say

2286
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:26,320
that which um

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01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:27,520
look you can only take that as a

2288
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:29,199
compliment you know i i learned a long

2289
01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:31,679
time ago from the artist's eye

2290
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:35,520
you can't tell you know um

2291
01:38:41,590 --> 01:38:38,480
my favorite film that i've ever made

2292
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:41,600
is probably a blood red sky but it's for

2293
01:38:45,189 --> 01:38:43,119
different personal reasons you know what

2294
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:45,199
i mean it's for personal stuff but what

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01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:47,679
i will say is i knew when i set out to

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01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:48,800
make this

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01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:50,159
that if i could do it because again

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01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:51,679
there's nothing else to reference like

2299
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,719
it and i was like man it took me

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01:38:59,030 --> 01:38:56,800
two years and three different like times

2301
01:39:00,870 --> 01:38:59,040
of making it to get it right

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01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:00,880
and

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01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:03,360
when it was done what i knew

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01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:06,239
is it's a lot of fun it's a lot of fun

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01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:09,520
to watch it it's fascinating and the

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01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:11,600
only way to go about doing it was to not

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01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:13,600
beat people over the head and to make

2308
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:15,199
sure that everybody knew that listen i'm

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01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,560
not making this because i'm trying to

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01:39:20,629 --> 01:39:18,719
convince you that ghosts are real i'm

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01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:20,639
making this to the contrary because i

2312
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:22,480
want you to know why i believe they're

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01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:23,280
real

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01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:24,960
and these like you said these are my

2315
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:27,920
experiences that define these things for

2316
01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:31,600
me so if you ever wonder you know

2317
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:33,119
one of the number one questions i always

2318
01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:35,040
get is you know what's the most haunted

2319
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:36,159
place you've ever been what's the

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01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:38,159
craziest experience you've ever had you

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01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:40,560
know how do you feel about you know are

2322
01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:42,239
are ghosts actually dead people or are

2323
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:44,239
they something else like all of those

2324
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:45,840
questions i felt like needed to be

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01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:47,199
answered in this

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01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:49,840
and when i got done with it i felt i

2327
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:51,520
felt really good about it and i felt

2328
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:53,679
like you know this is something that

2329
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,679
just about anybody could watch if you

2330
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:58,080
even have the slightest interest in the

2331
01:40:01,750 --> 01:40:00,000
paranormal right you could watch this

2332
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:01,760
and have a lot of fun with it um down to

2333
01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:04,159
the hardcore investigation this isn't

2334
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:08,159
part of my notes um because it wasn't

2335
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:09,440
really funny

2336
01:40:14,950 --> 01:40:10,480
but

2337
01:40:17,590 --> 01:40:14,960
uh there was a moment uh that i i i

2338
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:17,600
wanted to go back because i had

2339
01:40:22,950 --> 01:40:20,960
uh the same reaction uh okay we're

2340
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:22,960
talking about orbs here

2341
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:25,440
and i've only seen

2342
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:28,719
one real orb one time

2343
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:29,600
okay

2344
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,119
in my if

2345
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:34,159
it with my eyeballs we all saw it and it

2346
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:36,880
was big it wasn't small this was you

2347
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:40,080
know 20 30 40 feet tall at the back side

2348
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:41,600
of this field anyway i'm not going to

2349
01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:45,280
get into those details but my reaction

2350
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:48,400
was nearly word for word

2351
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:51,679
as yours which was

2352
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:54,000
you mean these things are real right

2353
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,800
okay

2354
01:40:57,669 --> 01:40:55,840
so

2355
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:57,679
you have um

2356
01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:00,400
uh you see an orb with your naked eye

2357
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:03,040
and uh tell me about that and your

2358
01:41:07,990 --> 01:41:04,800
reaction to that because we all

2359
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:08,000
look dust this that camera flare

2360
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:11,520
reaction digital cameras pickups uh

2361
01:41:17,510 --> 01:41:14,800
what you know i've dismissed orbs

2362
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:17,520
you know probably 99 of the time 100

2363
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:18,960
explainable nothing to do with the

2364
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,400
paranormal but then when you see one

2365
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:24,560
with your naked eye that changes things

2366
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,760
doesn't it

2367
01:41:30,790 --> 01:41:28,080
well yeah i remember um talking to

2368
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,800
charlie mattingly and he he it was a

2369
01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:32,639
really interesting conversation

2370
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:34,880
the first time he ever picked me up

2371
01:41:39,750 --> 01:41:37,600
uh charlie's tina's husband and he's

2372
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:39,760
more on the business and the things and

2373
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:41,840
and he told me straight out he was like

2374
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:43,920
this paranormal stuff

2375
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:45,679
for the birds man i don't care if it

2376
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:48,400
makes money great you know again this is

2377
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:50,719
this is back at waverly hills

2378
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:53,280
yeah way way back in the day yeah i said

2379
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:56,719
i mean yeah 16 years ago right and um

2380
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,239
but i distinctly remember the

2381
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:00,480
conversation where he said you know

2382
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:03,199
but there are these like red orbs that i

2383
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:06,239
see sometimes and i go red orbs

2384
01:42:09,910 --> 01:42:08,639
and he's like yeah they're quick but

2385
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:09,920
i've seen him

2386
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:11,119
and i'm like well you just told me you

2387
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:12,800
don't believe in the paranormal he was

2388
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:14,000
like well i didn't say they were dead

2389
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,960
people

2390
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:16,560
i'm like okay

2391
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:19,520
so when i was going through there

2392
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:22,560
i kept seeing

2393
01:42:26,470 --> 01:42:25,360
it it was like red flashes but it was

2394
01:42:27,910 --> 01:42:26,480
you don't really catch some other corner

2395
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:27,920
of your eye and you're like looking like

2396
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:30,000
oh it was something there or not

2397
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:31,920
right right right and so i started

2398
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:33,760
thinking well if these are real they're

2399
01:42:38,390 --> 01:42:35,600
moving really fast

2400
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:38,400
so i went through there and man

2401
01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:41,440
probably took 10 000 photos just had the

2402
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:43,600
camera just just ripping man just

2403
01:42:47,270 --> 01:42:45,040
constantly no matter where i went where

2404
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,280
i went where i went and then

2405
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:49,199
you know i finally captured two of them

2406
01:42:52,870 --> 01:42:50,800
and there's two incredible photos of

2407
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:52,880
them once you actually see the tail of

2408
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:54,639
it flying into a wall

2409
01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:56,639
and then one i mean it's right on it you

2410
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:58,239
can see this red

2411
01:43:01,510 --> 01:42:59,119
orb

2412
01:43:03,750 --> 01:43:01,520
and it really

2413
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:03,760
it blew my mind because what it did to

2414
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:05,840
me is kind of open my eyes to the idea i

2415
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,679
think images into the film too is that

2416
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,880
we're talking about

2417
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:10,800
future science like things that we don't

2418
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:12,560
understand like

2419
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,639
why these things happen at haunted

2420
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:16,960
places i i don't know

2421
01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:19,360
or do they only happen on a place or is

2422
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,719
that the only only time we're really

2423
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:22,480
looking you know what i mean like maybe

2424
01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:23,840
the [\h__\h] happens at walmart we're just

2425
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:25,199
not we're just looking for tide when

2426
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:27,679
we're there no not the not the red orb

2427
01:43:30,149 --> 01:43:28,639
you know

2428
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:30,159
that so

2429
01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:33,440
those type of discoveries for me and

2430
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:35,360
yeah they really kind of opened my mind

2431
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:37,119
to the scientific side of what this is

2432
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,199
or what maybe we don't understand

2433
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:41,520
and i you know i was just like you i've

2434
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:43,360
only seen

2435
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:46,239
with my eyes visually

2436
01:43:51,510 --> 01:43:48,560
twice in 25 years what i would call okay

2437
01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:51,520
that was an org like what what was that

2438
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:53,119
you know and now people say oh it was

2439
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:55,280
ball lightning but i've seen videos of

2440
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:57,520
that and it's not that no it's not that

2441
01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:59,600
it's not that it's not that it's yeah

2442
01:44:01,990 --> 01:44:01,199
it's different so

2443
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,000
um

2444
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:04,320
that stuff to me in a weird way i know

2445
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:07,600
it's less terrifying and less mystical

2446
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:08,880
and that's like that's what check but

2447
01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:10,239
that stuff to me is almost more

2448
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:11,920
interesting in a way because i really do

2449
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:13,040
believe

2450
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:15,360
that what we're seeing here

2451
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:17,440
is not even necessarily dead i i'm

2452
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,760
getting heavily involved and i have been

2453
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:21,920
for years and this whole idea

2454
01:44:26,550 --> 01:44:24,239
of you know string theory in multiple

2455
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,560
dimensions and you know the vibrations

2456
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:28,400
of these different dimensions crossing

2457
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:29,920
over every now and then i think there's

2458
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:31,440
a lot of a lot to do with what we're

2459
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:32,880
talking about

2460
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,600
and and most hardcore like scientists

2461
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:37,119
that i've talked to

2462
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,560
feel that things are kind of going in

2463
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:40,000
that direction too

2464
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,440
and that would make a lot of sense i

2465
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:43,119
think a lot of this stuff is just stuff

2466
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:45,840
we don't know yet we just don't know yet

2467
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:47,280
yeah yeah

2468
01:44:56,070 --> 01:44:51,679
it's in a weird way man just like ufos

2469
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:56,080
or bigfoot or life after death or or any

2470
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:57,119
of these

2471
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:59,520
you know fringe things whatever you want

2472
01:45:01,590 --> 01:45:00,560
to call them

2473
01:45:03,750 --> 01:45:01,600
uh

2474
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,760
science is getting and i talk about this

2475
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:06,239
nearly every day on the show chad i do

2476
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:09,119
i'm so interested in physics and science

2477
01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:09,920
and

2478
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:13,280
the more yeah that i hear

2479
01:45:18,709 --> 01:45:15,600
brian greene or sean carroll you know

2480
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:18,719
and these different physicists uh you

2481
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,239
know talking about you know brian green

2482
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:22,560
the big string theory guy and the more

2483
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:23,840
that i hear them talking about the

2484
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:26,800
multiverse and extra dimensions and and

2485
01:45:30,229 --> 01:45:27,520
and

2486
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:30,239
i'm like dude you're talking about

2487
01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:31,920
freaking ghost you're talking about

2488
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,760
interdimensional beings you're talking

2489
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:35,600
about life after death you're talking

2490
01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:37,920
about ufos you're talking about time

2491
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:40,080
travel you are talking about all the

2492
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:41,520
things that you say you don't even

2493
01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:42,719
believe in

2494
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:47,840
crazy part of physics

2495
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:49,440
and what is it that you're really

2496
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:50,639
talking about

2497
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:53,119
and and one day

2498
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:55,520
it's it's they're going to crash man

2499
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:58,320
it's going to go head-on it's going to

2500
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:00,719
go sean carroll said chad you're going

2501
01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:02,719
to love this

2502
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,040
listen to this interview with sean and i

2503
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:07,440
like shawn you know caltech he's great i

2504
01:46:12,910 --> 01:46:08,800
love his books

2505
01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:12,920
um but this interviewer goes so um

2506
01:46:17,109 --> 01:46:14,239
[Music]

2507
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:17,119
what about ghost and life after death

2508
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:19,600
sean carroll the brilliant physicist

2509
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:22,880
says that this is his answer

2510
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:24,639
i don't have time for stuff that i don't

2511
01:46:28,229 --> 01:46:26,400
believe in

2512
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:28,239
yeah that's his answer

2513
01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:30,000
what a boring life

2514
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:31,760
what's so funny about that is a lot of

2515
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:33,679
these concepts especially of string

2516
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:34,960
theory

2517
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:37,520
to me are far more mind-bending than the

2518
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:39,199
idea of a ghost yeah that's right that's

2519
01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:41,920
right that's right they you want us to

2520
01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:44,880
believe in 11 dimensions

2521
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:48,480
and the multiverse in parallel worlds

2522
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:51,040
and entanglement

2523
01:47:01,510 --> 01:46:59,590
in another universe that took a

2524
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:01,520
different life pattern

2525
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:02,320
and

2526
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,400
it's just so simple it's all math it's

2527
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,880
like what the [\h__\h] are you talking about

2528
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:08,960
right but you don't believe in ghosts

2529
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:11,119
right right right right right you don't

2530
01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:13,040
believe that when we die our energy goes

2531
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:14,960
transfers to somewhere else right that's

2532
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:17,760
right right right right yeah right okay

2533
01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:18,639
so

2534
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:19,840
i um

2535
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:23,440
i lived in pasadena uh for a number of

2536
01:47:29,189 --> 01:47:25,920
years okay 84

2537
01:47:30,550 --> 01:47:29,199
uh through uh like 1990 i mean i'm in

2538
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:30,560
pasadena

2539
01:47:35,030 --> 01:47:31,520
and

2540
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:35,040
one of the things this was the law

2541
01:47:40,709 --> 01:47:37,760
in pasadena that all residents in

2542
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:40,719
pasadena abided by

2543
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:42,880
you don't mess with suicide bridge it's

2544
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:43,840
haunted

2545
01:47:48,709 --> 01:47:45,840
right and that that's the law that's the

2546
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:48,719
law and i used to go i i would look at

2547
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:49,600
it

2548
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:51,760
you know and some lady would come up

2549
01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:53,920
don't go over there it's haunted

2550
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:56,400
you know and it was that was the law in

2551
01:48:01,590 --> 01:47:59,600
past in fact i think for a while

2552
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:01,600
you couldn't even walk on it the bridge

2553
01:48:05,650 --> 01:48:03,119
was closed

2554
01:48:05,660 --> 01:48:17,270
[Applause]

2555
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,350
colorado available extension of colorado

2556
01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:21,679
boulevard um

2557
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:22,960
and uh

2558
01:48:26,709 --> 01:48:24,719
and you decide to go down there and hang

2559
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:26,719
out with your wife

2560
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:30,960
yeah that was a super bizarre scenario

2561
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,280
where we had been there multiple times

2562
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:35,119
and nothing had happened but i have

2563
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:37,520
heard so many stories yeah that came

2564
01:48:39,590 --> 01:48:38,800
from there

2565
01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:39,600
so

2566
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:42,239
finally one night we're out there and

2567
01:48:45,830 --> 01:48:44,239
we're just about getting ready to go and

2568
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:45,840
i had to go to the

2569
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:48,239
so i ventured off on my own down the

2570
01:48:51,189 --> 01:48:50,239
little royal river that runs right by

2571
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:51,199
there

2572
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:53,840
and literally like as i'm going to the

2573
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:56,320
bathroom you get that

2574
01:48:59,510 --> 01:48:58,000
that investigator feeling you know the

2575
01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:59,520
hair to stand up on the back and neck

2576
01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:01,440
and i'm sitting here going

2577
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:04,080
is someone he like physically

2578
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,320
my first thought is it's an open public

2579
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:08,480
place right so anybody could be down

2580
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:10,960
there anybody so you're playing you're

2581
01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:13,760
peeing in the bushes in a public park

2582
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:16,880
at night in the dark at a haunted bridge

2583
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:19,360
what's the worst that could happen yeah

2584
01:49:23,910 --> 01:49:21,520
right exactly exactly

2585
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:23,920
like 3am so i literally i had my camera

2586
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:26,239
around my neck so i put it up to my

2587
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:29,119
shoulder and just go

2588
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:30,159
see

2589
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:31,679
and and look back is there's someone

2590
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:33,280
behind me here what

2591
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,239
and i look down

2592
01:49:41,350 --> 01:49:38,560
and in this photo

2593
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:41,360
it's just it's an incredible photo

2594
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,040
it looks like

2595
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,760
two shadow people of an adult and what

2596
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:47,760
is a child well

2597
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:50,639
one of the biggest legends of

2598
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:51,920
you know the

2599
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:54,000
suicide bridge is that there was an

2600
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:56,800
adult who jumped with a four-year-old

2601
01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:57,679
son

2602
01:50:00,790 --> 01:49:59,199
to their death

2603
01:50:02,790 --> 01:50:00,800
and this is like people claim to see

2604
01:50:04,229 --> 01:50:02,800
this all the time and i'm not saying

2605
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:04,239
that's what it was i'm saying that in

2606
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:06,560
the photo it looks like an adult

2607
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:08,960
so as i'm walking back

2608
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:11,119
laura is shooting up at the bridge now

2609
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,280
my wife is not a paranormal investigator

2610
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,920
she's like i i i went through this long

2611
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:17,599
time period where i was like you gotta

2612
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:20,000
go with me type of stuff and she was

2613
01:50:25,589 --> 01:50:24,159
just so bored so many times um but she

2614
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:25,599
had a couple experiences with me that

2615
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:27,920
solved everything for her but she's

2616
01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:29,599
shooting up at the bridge

2617
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:30,719
and i'm like

2618
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:32,080
what are you shooting at did you see

2619
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:33,840
something fall and she's like

2620
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:36,239
no she's like i just feel weird right

2621
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:37,520
now and i'm like what are you talking

2622
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:39,280
about i just got this screen like i'm

2623
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:41,440
shaking like i feel like i'm vibrating

2624
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:43,440
or something and i'm like what and she

2625
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:44,480
goes i'm just i don't know what i'm

2626
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:46,480
shooting i'm just shooting so i take a

2627
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:48,320
picture of her

2628
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:50,639
and again in this video

2629
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:53,760
in this picture you see some

2630
01:50:59,510 --> 01:50:56,560
kind of artifact that is like almost

2631
01:51:01,910 --> 01:50:59,520
encompassing and flying around her

2632
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,920
but it's super bright and it literally

2633
01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:04,080
like goes all the way down up and back

2634
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:05,199
over her

2635
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:06,960
and again this is a high shutter speed

2636
01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:08,400
i'm shooting instantly there's nothing

2637
01:51:11,350 --> 01:51:09,440
that i see

2638
01:51:13,109 --> 01:51:11,360
i know artifacts

2639
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:13,119
this shouldn't be there it shouldn't be

2640
01:51:16,870 --> 01:51:15,040
there it's a great picture

2641
01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:16,880
yeah it's partially personal experience

2642
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:18,560
too because it was just what she was

2643
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:21,440
feeling at the time now it was this both

2644
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:23,040
happened right away that's what that's

2645
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:24,880
that was my question this was at the

2646
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:26,400
same moment

2647
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:28,239
when you took the shot over your

2648
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:29,679
shoulder when you were peeing in the

2649
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:30,639
bushes

2650
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:33,119
so she's she's over at the bridge

2651
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:36,080
shooting the the picture is uh that you

2652
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:39,040
took of her she's shooting up uh at the

2653
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:41,840
bridge so the these two events happen uh

2654
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:43,760
pretty much at the same time

2655
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:45,840
i took the photo saw what i saw was

2656
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:48,159
creeped out finished and literally went

2657
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:50,719
jogging back to where she was at

2658
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:52,960
and usually laura just kind of hangs out

2659
01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:55,440
and just kind of like sits around so the

2660
01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:57,599
fact that she was up shooting i was just

2661
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:58,480
like

2662
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:00,719
what are you doing you know so then yeah

2663
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:02,719
it was like bang bang like right after

2664
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:04,080
so the fact that they both happened at

2665
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:05,920
the same time was really interesting

2666
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,920
yeah that the picture you took over your

2667
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:09,840
shoulder is uh

2668
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:12,159
that's a one in a million shot that's uh

2669
01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:14,719
that's a pretty incredible shot there's

2670
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:18,080
there's obviously uh two

2671
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,719
uh entities walking you can see their

2672
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:22,639
legs you can see the yeah you can't see

2673
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:24,000
their heads

2674
01:52:29,430 --> 01:52:26,880
uh it's dark it's it's just body-ish

2675
01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:29,440
yeah no those are those are those are

2676
01:52:32,550 --> 01:52:30,639
legs

2677
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:32,560
there's definitely

2678
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:33,679
uh

2679
01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:37,840
that's and you can you can see the arms

2680
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:40,880
coming off the side too yeah

2681
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:43,040
it's super weird it almost always

2682
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:44,639
happens like that i swear whenever you

2683
01:52:48,229 --> 01:52:46,239
try to capture evidence you never

2684
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:48,239
capture it it always happens when you're

2685
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:50,400
least expecting it you know i didn't

2686
01:52:54,149 --> 01:52:52,239
even i used to laugh and say why are we

2687
01:52:59,830 --> 01:52:54,159
going ghost hunting you never capture

2688
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:01,430
you know when you're leaving or in the

2689
01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:04,960
parking lot or something you know now uh

2690
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:08,719
the next uh the next this is my note

2691
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:12,639
uh the st james poker room and uh

2692
01:53:18,229 --> 01:53:13,760
now

2693
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:18,239
um this uh i jumped out of my skin

2694
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:20,880
because what happens in this shot

2695
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:23,119
uh i didn't expect but it was your

2696
01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:25,199
reaction too as well

2697
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,599
uh you were caught completely by

2698
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:29,040
surprise

2699
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:30,000
so

2700
01:53:34,629 --> 01:53:32,080
let's everybody needs to go and see this

2701
01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:34,639
it's an incredible moment in the film

2702
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:35,599
uh

2703
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:37,679
you see something like this

2704
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,239
yeah there's ghosts ghosts are real no

2705
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:41,840
doubt but

2706
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:44,480
set this up what what's going on okay

2707
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:46,880
so when we went to the st james hotels

2708
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:48,639
in cimarron new mexico

2709
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,000
it was um

2710
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:52,239
it was for this ghost prophecy shoot we

2711
01:53:57,589 --> 01:53:55,360
were told again by the people there

2712
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:57,599
the one place that there's not been any

2713
01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,560
reported activity was this poker room

2714
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:02,159
and this place is

2715
01:54:05,510 --> 01:54:04,239
the legend was that there was a ghost

2716
01:54:07,589 --> 01:54:05,520
there that could actually have the

2717
01:54:09,910 --> 01:54:07,599
ability to kill people his name is tj

2718
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:09,920
wright if you stayed in this room 18

2719
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:11,520
where he died

2720
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:13,679
after you check out in the following

2721
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:15,599
week you mysteriously died that was like

2722
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:18,960
the legend um now mary beth wiley who

2723
01:54:23,669 --> 01:54:21,360
was on my team at that time we never

2724
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:23,679
advertised or put out there

2725
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,599
that she was a psychic nor would she

2726
01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:27,520
call herself a psychic but she had some

2727
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:30,000
crazy intuition that i would listen to

2728
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:31,679
and just i just been around her too many

2729
01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:33,280
times where she thought we should go

2730
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:35,360
here and like things happen

2731
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:38,800
she had a dream and also felt like we

2732
01:54:42,870 --> 01:54:40,560
need to go to the poker room

2733
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:42,880
so we were nine and a half minutes into

2734
01:54:46,950 --> 01:54:45,360
that investigation like it just started

2735
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:46,960
so we literally went in the poker and we

2736
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:48,239
were sitting there

2737
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:49,840
and there's this effect happen there's

2738
01:54:53,830 --> 01:54:51,280
this effect that we refer to as a

2739
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:53,840
blackening it's a weird effect where

2740
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:57,440
i don't know if it's your eyes

2741
01:55:01,910 --> 01:54:59,520
adjusting and then even adjusting more

2742
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:01,920
but for some reason the darkness just

2743
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:04,639
becomes almost jet black like you can't

2744
01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:06,880
i mean like nothing is penetrating it

2745
01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:08,800
and we're staring at the door

2746
01:55:13,109 --> 01:55:10,880
from this poker table

2747
01:55:14,550 --> 01:55:13,119
and it just goes from dark to like jet

2748
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:14,560
black but something really weird

2749
01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:16,639
happened my heart rate

2750
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,719
started increasing and i mean like i was

2751
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:20,080
running and this had never happened to

2752
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:21,520
me before like even when i've been

2753
01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:23,440
freaked out yes your heart rate a razor

2754
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,880
but this was like

2755
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:26,320
i'm i mean it was just like i was

2756
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:28,320
chugging so i'm you could hear me saying

2757
01:55:31,109 --> 01:55:29,119
her

2758
01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:31,119
and be something's not right like my

2759
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:34,239
heart is pounding too fast right now and

2760
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:36,000
then i pause again and we just happened

2761
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:38,320
to set our cameras the cameras were

2762
01:55:43,109 --> 01:55:40,880
meant to face towards the door because

2763
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:43,119
that's where this blackening was well

2764
01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:44,800
there's on the other side of this table

2765
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:47,440
which is like almost

2766
01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:49,440
seven feet away

2767
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:51,679
there's a chair that's sitting there

2768
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,199
it's a bit it's a big round poker table

2769
01:56:00,149 --> 01:55:57,520
right massive poker table yes and this

2770
01:56:01,830 --> 01:56:00,159
chair so and it's probably pushed out

2771
01:56:03,270 --> 01:56:01,840
you know probably six or eight inches or

2772
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:03,280
so

2773
01:56:12,149 --> 01:56:10,239
literally mid-sentence what i was saying

2774
01:56:13,910 --> 01:56:12,159
is hey we're gonna have to stop this

2775
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:13,920
because you know my heart there's

2776
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:15,280
something wrong

2777
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:18,320
right as i say this the chair pushes

2778
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:21,360
forward towards us and both the cameras

2779
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:24,159
were dead on it and what you hear is you

2780
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:25,760
hear it move and then you hear that

2781
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:27,119
massive

2782
01:56:33,430 --> 01:56:30,880
that's me firing back scared to death

2783
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:33,440
freaking out and which we immediately

2784
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:35,440
like i called justin and joey and i was

2785
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:37,760
like dude you gotta get up here i'm

2786
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:40,159
outside i'm done i need like a good 20

2787
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:42,639
30 minutes to chill out you're not gonna

2788
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:45,040
believe what just happened i'm certainly

2789
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:47,280
caught this on camera um which what was

2790
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,040
really cool is the next day justin and

2791
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:51,119
joe were able to go back in there and

2792
01:56:54,790 --> 01:56:53,440
show people where we were sitting

2793
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:54,800
and put the cameras where they were and

2794
01:56:59,830 --> 01:56:57,199
show them how far away this was and on

2795
01:57:02,310 --> 01:56:59,840
review the chair actually lifted up from

2796
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:02,320
the back so you can see something pushed

2797
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:04,960
it forward yeah yeah yeah

2798
01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:06,960
it does it does um

2799
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:09,840
but but that's that's not the magic of

2800
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:13,440
this shot the magic of this shot is the

2801
01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:15,360
gibberish that came out of your mouth at

2802
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:17,360
that moment

2803
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:19,360
because you say

2804
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:21,840
you say to her

2805
01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:28,629
did you see that yeah yeah

2806
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:30,480
it was like yes

2807
01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:31,840
you know

2808
01:57:36,149 --> 01:57:33,520
what

2809
01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:36,159
that's all you could manage to say at

2810
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:38,239
that moment out yeah that was just

2811
01:57:43,589 --> 01:57:41,599
insane so freaked out i mean she was too

2812
01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:43,599
i mean she was just like i was like

2813
01:57:48,470 --> 01:57:46,000
chair moved and she's it was funny

2814
01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:48,480
because it's after all that ruckus right

2815
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:51,760
yeah crash yeah cheer moved and she's

2816
01:57:57,109 --> 01:57:52,400
like

2817
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,119
yeah that my chair [\h__\h] move yeah he

2818
01:58:02,470 --> 01:57:59,679
looked like yeah okay now this is what i

2819
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:02,480
noticed in the film uh in the video i've

2820
01:58:07,270 --> 01:58:05,040
replayed this so many times and you do

2821
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:07,280
in the film too as well the back of the

2822
01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:09,119
chair which you're

2823
01:58:12,790 --> 01:58:11,119
the camera's pointing at the chair this

2824
01:58:14,310 --> 01:58:12,800
is the back of the chair everybody this

2825
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:14,320
is the back of the chair

2826
01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:17,199
um and he's you know it's like the top

2827
01:58:22,070 --> 01:58:20,000
this part of the chair right and you can

2828
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:22,080
see

2829
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:25,679
it move it it pushes forward and then

2830
01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:27,119
comes this way

2831
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:29,040
you guys are over here she's sitting

2832
01:58:33,669 --> 01:58:31,760
here you're sitting back here so it's

2833
01:58:36,629 --> 01:58:33,679
four chairs at this poker table you're

2834
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:36,639
here the chair is on on this side

2835
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,320
and it it goes right and scoots up like

2836
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:42,400
somebody pushed

2837
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:45,119
right from uh from from right from the

2838
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:47,679
back of that comes from the top yes back

2839
01:58:50,629 --> 01:58:48,800
of the chair

2840
01:58:53,270 --> 01:58:50,639
that's what i saw

2841
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:53,280
yeah which is fascinating and you know

2842
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:55,280
we didn't know that until we reviewed it

2843
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:57,520
obviously but even joey went in the next

2844
01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:58,639
day

2845
01:59:04,390 --> 01:59:01,119
and joey was he's six five almost six

2846
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:04,400
six and he laid down on the you know the

2847
01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:06,719
chair put his back against the chair and

2848
01:59:10,310 --> 01:59:08,400
leaned his feet all the way out to

2849
01:59:13,109 --> 01:59:10,320
basically hook it and he could barely

2850
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:13,119
touch it so it was it was an incredible

2851
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:15,360
incredible capture for sure

2852
01:59:19,189 --> 01:59:18,080
um uh the uh

2853
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:19,199
uh

2854
01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:20,639
the moment

2855
01:59:23,669 --> 01:59:22,159
it's it's one thing we got to take a

2856
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:23,679
break right here and we're gonna come

2857
01:59:29,030 --> 01:59:25,840
back um

2858
01:59:31,270 --> 01:59:29,040
it's it's you know a disembodied voice

2859
01:59:32,070 --> 01:59:31,280
okay it's whispers it's a whistle it's

2860
01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:32,080
this

2861
01:59:38,870 --> 01:59:35,280
it's boot steps in the dark whatever

2862
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,880
but that that's a physical object

2863
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:40,320
moving

2864
01:59:44,870 --> 01:59:43,599
that that is that's the holy grail isn't

2865
01:59:48,870 --> 01:59:44,880
it

2866
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:48,880
when i think of

2867
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:50,719
how many hours

2868
01:59:55,430 --> 01:59:53,040
like i have spent

2869
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:55,440
i think we estimated it was around 3 600

2870
01:59:59,830 --> 01:59:56,480
hours

2871
02:00:01,589 --> 01:59:59,840
that i've spent in dark empty places

2872
02:00:04,790 --> 02:00:01,599
with nothing happening

2873
02:00:07,750 --> 02:00:04,800
to finally get something moving

2874
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:07,760
on camera where there's two perfect hd

2875
02:00:11,430 --> 02:00:09,520
cameras trained on it

2876
02:00:13,589 --> 02:00:11,440
i couldn't believe i i couldn't believe

2877
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:13,599
it i mean especially because again it's

2878
02:00:18,149 --> 02:00:15,199
nine and we're nine minutes into the

2879
02:00:19,830 --> 02:00:18,159
investigation just hey it just happened

2880
02:00:21,830 --> 02:00:19,840
and especially because if you if you've

2881
02:00:23,589 --> 02:00:21,840
been doing this for so long you just

2882
02:00:26,629 --> 02:00:23,599
know that like you said it's the holy

2883
02:00:28,950 --> 02:00:26,639
grail it's so rare that anything like

2884
02:00:30,390 --> 02:00:28,960
that would ever happen

2885
02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:30,400
later in there

2886
02:00:35,189 --> 02:00:32,960
do you sit

2887
02:00:37,750 --> 02:00:35,199
this is probably never been asked this

2888
02:00:39,830 --> 02:00:37,760
question before but after that happens

2889
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:39,840
right the holy grail moment do you sit

2890
02:00:43,910 --> 02:00:41,679
and look at the chair now for six hours

2891
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:43,920
and nothing happens

2892
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:46,639
oh we spent a lot of time back in that

2893
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:48,719
that room and nothing ever happened yeah

2894
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:49,840
nothing happened

2895
02:00:54,229 --> 02:00:52,480
in fact we we have times that are on

2896
02:00:56,709 --> 02:00:54,239
that we're filming and then times when

2897
02:00:59,430 --> 02:00:56,719
we're not we spend a lot of time

2898
02:01:01,189 --> 02:00:59,440
off the clock in there trying to see

2899
02:01:03,830 --> 02:01:01,199
that things would happen and nothing

2900
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:03,840
ever hap nothing ever happened after

2901
02:01:07,270 --> 02:01:04,800
that

2902
02:01:08,950 --> 02:01:07,280
which is maddening it's maddening let's

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church

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chad caleb's with us tonight we're

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talking about his new film it is called

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74 minutes

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and i just posted up the link again in

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twitter um so you can go and

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and uh check it out right there and uh

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tomorrow night linda moulton howe is

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with us and i

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and i'm reminding everybody no open

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lines tomorrow night no fade or night

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linda moulton howe is here i know it's

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thursday and everybody's excited

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but it's linda moulton out tomorrow

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night and i'm going to turn the phone

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lines off

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everybody it's so fun

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an open lines night right if i have a

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guest on on thursday most people don't

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even check they just it's it's thursday

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it's open lines i'm just gonna call and

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and get in line and the phones just ring

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all night long

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and i'm gonna have to turn those off

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74 minutes

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and

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uh here is uh

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the uh the lake cannot hotel

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the

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yeah

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um

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you in in the film uh i think you said

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whisper or you know it no it sounded

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like a growl to me

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yeah it was like a deep breath like

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yeah yeah yeah right in my ear right

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right right and you jumped completely

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out of your skin

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yeah so we were at we have lake cognate

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hotel in pennsylvania

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and i actually did a walk-through for

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some reason it was during paranormal

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stay and they asked me to do this walk

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through with ryan and ship for the first

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time

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and during the walk through i noticed

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this linen closet

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nothing more than

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feeling this weird

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feeling

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um when we first went past it the second

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time we went past it

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i saw a person in their folding

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cloth and then i spoke to the owner when

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i went downstairs

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and just ask them how many employees

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they had and they were like why and i

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said i saw someone folding cloths

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upstairs in the this land living hall or

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this little room basically

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and they seem to be confused because

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they're like well can you describe the

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person and the person i was crying it

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was it was a shorter girl and

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they said but yeah we don't have any

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sort of girl that's hired here and i'm

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like come on you know so during that

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investigation

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the first place i go into is that

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linen closet and

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same type of feeling you get that

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presence feeling i'm in one room ryan's

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across the hall in the other room across

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the hall

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and as i'm walking out

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you i couldn't believe that you could

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actually hear it on his camera too it

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was so loud it was just like a

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like in my ear you're talking you're

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talking yes you're talking when this is

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my voice right over my voice and it

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startles the hell out of me yeah i go

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flying out of that door and turn around

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and i turn around to go walking right

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back in and right when i do

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this massive door that spring-loaded

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like you're talking about

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starts shutting and you can hear me go

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why is the door closing what is going on

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we spent probably two hours

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that night trying to get this door to

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budge and when i say it was spring it

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wasn't spring-loaded shut the spring

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load the other way to stay open to stay

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open

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right right so you'd have to push

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against it

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to get it to go

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and i mean

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it didn't matter what we tried

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because i was even up to the fact i was

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like maybe when i ran out i hit it or

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something you know

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even though we could see on the film

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that wasn't the case i'm like there's

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there's got to be a reason this door

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shut when it did and there's no way man

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i mean that door

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we i mean we literally tried running

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into it to see if we can get the clothes

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it would just go all right it would go

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right back to where it was now

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when when the growl happened it had a

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weird tone to it as well um

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uh

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everybody heard it and you're talking

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you've got uh there's there's

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microphones there's live audio going on

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so it gets picked up by everything but

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everybody in the room you're talking at

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the time when this goes down

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everybody else heard it as well as you

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you jumped out of your skin

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but this was an audible thing

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that uh was witnessed by everybody it

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was an incredible moment

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yeah it was a dis way i guess we would

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call a disembodied breath i guess or

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growl i guess but yeah it was

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when you talk about like would i still

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get startled now that would start on me

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now

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when it happens

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i think

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the impression that i got when it

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happened was just stay out of this room

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as i'm leaving i get this you know it

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just had a tone to it that was very

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menacing and i turned around immediately

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to go back in

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and that big door just shuts and it was

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just like okay

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it doesn't want me in here whatever is

3155
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going on doesn't want me in here um yeah

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that was a

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a serious moment now the other

3158
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this one wasn't your reaction uh

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this was uh your partner

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but it was the curtains

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and i haven't i haven't heard

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well no you do it later on in the film

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we're gonna get to that in the in a

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second but i haven't heard somebody

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scream

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uh

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like he did at that moment with the

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curtains

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well what's really weird is

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again i'm talking to him i'm having a

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conversation with him that was ryan

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buehl we were at the uh thomas house in

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tennessee

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and

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as i'm talking to him he has this camera

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just on me and i have mine on him it's a

3177
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common thing we did

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and we didn't we didn't capture what he

3179
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saw we captured the aftermath he said

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that as he was talking to me he noticed

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a large dark like shadow person

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behind me that had been standing there

3183
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the whole time he just didn't recognize

3184
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it so he obviously i mean he you could

3185
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hear him he freaks out which

3186
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we didn't have footage of this but

3187
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i put him into the wall dude he was

3188
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i completely freaked out he was right in

3189
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front of me

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and i just couldn't get past him and i

3191
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just went forward and smashed him

3192
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against the wall and that's why his

3193
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camera shakes so much but then when it

3194
02:13:09,830 --> 02:13:08,480
stops shaking yeah you see this curtain

3195
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at the back of the room that shouldn't

3196
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be shaking for any reason

3197
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and it now shakes but yeah it folds over

3198
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but it stays folded like it pulls it

3199
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it's pulled aside that's what it looks

3200
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like to me like somebody was looking out

3201
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the window

3202
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yeah it's super super bizarre and again

3203
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every possible test you could possibly

3204
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do to recreate that was done and there's

3205
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just no way you know and when you

3206
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experience stuff like this it's like you

3207
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can only have these experiences so many

3208
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times before it's like

3209
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okay i'm sold now there is really

3210
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bizarre stuff in the world going on you

3211
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know and uh what i remember the most

3212
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:47,440
about that

3213
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is how much his re response terrified me

3214
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and the fact that there was that much

3215
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energy flying around and that after we

3216
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were able to collect ourselves there was

3217
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still stuff going on in the room that

3218
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was right behind me was amazing totally

3219
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amazing now uh let's let's discuss this

3220
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pew cushion now where is this where is

3221
02:14:13,750 --> 02:14:10,560
this castle

3222
02:14:16,470 --> 02:14:13,760
uh it's in northumberland england and uh

3223
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that's a region in a city called almwick

3224
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it's about a stone's throw away from

3225
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scotland

3226
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you're a good three hours away from any

3227
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kind of civilization i mean it's just in

3228
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:26,639
the middle of nowhere chilean castle is

3229
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and um

3230
02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:30,560
what was really weird is okay once we

3231
02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:32,400
landed kieran o'keefe did such a good

3232
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:34,320
job of taking care of us

3233
02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:36,800
but it's a good like six seven hour

3234
02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:39,679
drive from downtown london

3235
02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:41,520
to this castle

3236
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so we got in at like 3 30 in the morning

3237
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and for some reason graham

3238
02:14:51,350 --> 02:14:49,679
and i don't know if you just want to get

3239
02:14:53,030 --> 02:14:51,360
out of the way or whatever he decided

3240
02:14:55,910 --> 02:14:53,040
that's going to be the right time to do

3241
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:55,920
like this this history walkthrough

3242
02:15:00,470 --> 02:14:58,960
so i was just exhausted and

3243
02:15:02,709 --> 02:15:00,480
we would go to different rooms and

3244
02:15:04,390 --> 02:15:02,719
grandma talk for a very long time

3245
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:04,400
deservedly so the history there is

3246
02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:05,760
spectacular

3247
02:15:10,390 --> 02:15:07,920
but i'm narcoleptic as hell man

3248
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especially when i'm beat so i slept

3249
02:15:13,910 --> 02:15:11,280
through

3250
02:15:15,669 --> 02:15:13,920
his whole part about how

3251
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:15,679
in the chapel

3252
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:18,480
there's a little a young girl ghost that

3253
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:20,079
they they believe

3254
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:21,199
and

3255
02:15:26,069 --> 02:15:24,960
she stays here because it's the one room

3256
02:15:29,030 --> 02:15:26,079
that this

3257
02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:29,040
head torture ghost john sage doesn't

3258
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:30,159
come to

3259
02:15:33,430 --> 02:15:31,840
okay

3260
02:15:34,709 --> 02:15:33,440
so that was a really important piece of

3261
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:34,719
information that i wish i would have

3262
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,560
known when i was doing my investigation

3263
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:38,639
but it's almost

3264
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:40,480
good that i didn't know because of what

3265
02:15:44,069 --> 02:15:41,679
happened

3266
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:44,079
and uh what was really

3267
02:15:47,430 --> 02:15:45,360
mind-blowing

3268
02:15:49,430 --> 02:15:47,440
is a lot of times when you're

3269
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:49,440
investigating you know

3270
02:15:52,709 --> 02:15:50,560
especially if you're filming for

3271
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:52,719
something you'll use the eyes and ears

3272
02:15:58,069 --> 02:15:55,119
of your crew because look they've got

3273
02:15:59,910 --> 02:15:58,079
you know uh audio equipment on they have

3274
02:16:02,149 --> 02:15:59,920
other cameras so a lot of times you'll

3275
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:02,159
use them to to say hey did you see that

3276
02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:04,000
too or did you hear that did i hear that

3277
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:04,800
right

3278
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:06,320
and there's this great

3279
02:16:10,069 --> 02:16:08,320
piece of evidence that's captured where

3280
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there is only one girl in the room it's

3281
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mary beth wiley she's on camera

3282
02:16:17,830 --> 02:16:15,520
and i'm in the chapel

3283
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:17,840
and i'm provoking

3284
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:20,880
hardcore yeah you are you are you are

3285
02:16:25,510 --> 02:16:22,960
saying things that

3286
02:16:30,229 --> 02:16:25,520
uh you shouldn't say in public right

3287
02:16:34,150 --> 02:16:32,469
in the sanctuary right

3288
02:16:36,389 --> 02:16:34,160
right right i didn't know that's where

3289
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:36,399
because the whole place looks chaplish

3290
02:16:39,110 --> 02:16:37,840
you know i mean

3291
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:39,120
so

3292
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:40,880
i'm in there doing that and all of a

3293
02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:44,719
sudden you hear this disembodied voice

3294
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:47,840
state to my team

3295
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:49,280
he's not there

3296
02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:52,479
and it's clearly in an english accent

3297
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:54,639
it's a little girl's voice

3298
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:56,559
mary beth's on camera she looks straight

3299
02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:58,719
to the audio guy like

3300
02:17:02,469 --> 02:17:00,319
did i hear this you know you could see

3301
02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:02,479
that kind of the the fright on

3302
02:17:07,270 --> 02:17:05,439
everyone's face and then a door opens to

3303
02:17:09,030 --> 02:17:07,280
the side

3304
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:09,040
minutes after that

3305
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:10,719
as i'm provoking

3306
02:17:15,429 --> 02:17:12,960
i stand up and this

3307
02:17:17,270 --> 02:17:15,439
i mean it's probably 12 foot

3308
02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:17,280
thick heavy

3309
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:19,280
rubber cushion

3310
02:17:24,790 --> 02:17:22,559
just goes ripping off this pew

3311
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:24,800
against my legs and hits me

3312
02:17:29,429 --> 02:17:26,960
in which i had a freak out session that

3313
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:29,439
literally

3314
02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:31,040
on their back i thought you were gonna

3315
02:17:35,190 --> 02:17:34,399
start crying actually yes

3316
02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:35,200
you

3317
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:40,880
uh

3318
02:17:45,110 --> 02:17:44,000
your your words um

3319
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:45,120
but uh

3320
02:17:51,589 --> 02:17:48,800
if i say what the f but the way i say it

3321
02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:51,599
i'm you can tell i am terrified yeah

3322
02:17:56,309 --> 02:17:54,399
you're terrified you john i'm even more

3323
02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:56,319
i'm extra terrified because we

3324
02:18:01,589 --> 02:17:58,960
specifically set that up

3325
02:18:04,150 --> 02:18:01,599
where we don't have communication i

3326
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:04,160
don't have communication with my team

3327
02:18:07,509 --> 02:18:06,160
and i'm so low and we did that on

3328
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:07,519
purpose because we were like taking the

3329
02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:09,519
fear meter through the roof

3330
02:18:14,070 --> 02:18:11,280
so when it happened

3331
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:14,080
if this thing could throw this at me and

3332
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:16,319
i just saw it and felt it was hit with

3333
02:18:19,589 --> 02:18:18,559
it again you don't know what's coming

3334
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:19,599
next

3335
02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:22,399
so i was truly like okay

3336
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:24,719
i'm terrified i gotta collect myself and

3337
02:18:29,990 --> 02:18:27,200
i gotta get back to my team right now

3338
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:30,000
yeah so you stand you you stand you're

3339
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,399
standing there uh for about five seconds

3340
02:18:37,830 --> 02:18:34,719
you're talking smack to the ghost

3341
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:37,840
you've got one hand in your pocket uh

3342
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:40,000
and i'm trying to think it's this hand

3343
02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:41,519
and you've got that man holding the

3344
02:18:45,589 --> 02:18:43,439
camera you're holding the camera

3345
02:18:48,629 --> 02:18:45,599
and you're looking around the room

3346
02:18:52,549 --> 02:18:48,639
talking smack the pew and it's like a

3347
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:52,559
12-foot pew is behind you and then you

3348
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:56,000
see from the end of the pew you're here

3349
02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:58,399
and there's like a but you see you see

3350
02:19:02,629 --> 02:19:01,439
the cushion the end of it

3351
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:02,639
lift up

3352
02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:05,599
it's it's fast this thing is thrown

3353
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:09,040
yeah yeah it's thrown off of the pew

3354
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:11,200
and and hits you in the back of the legs

3355
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:12,719
and then you jump

3356
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:14,719
um and then you turn around and you look

3357
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:18,000
and you see what it is and man

3358
02:19:23,830 --> 02:19:19,040
you

3359
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:23,840
kid

3360
02:19:29,429 --> 02:19:26,559
scared and and the way that it flies off

3361
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:29,439
of uh the pew dude it's like out of the

3362
02:19:32,150 --> 02:19:30,880
exorcist

3363
02:19:33,349 --> 02:19:32,160
this is like

3364
02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:33,359
it was

3365
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,200
deep probably as far as on my own

3366
02:19:41,830 --> 02:19:39,599
investigation barring the stuff as a

3367
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:41,840
child in my house in persia that was the

3368
02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:44,080
most intense thing

3369
02:19:48,230 --> 02:19:46,080
that i've ever like witnessed and it

3370
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:48,240
just hit me so hard i mean you can see

3371
02:19:52,630 --> 02:19:50,399
my body moves when it hits me yeah and

3372
02:19:54,389 --> 02:19:52,640
like i said the velocity that it came at

3373
02:19:57,270 --> 02:19:54,399
yeah so

3374
02:20:00,309 --> 02:19:57,280
they the team can see me but they can't

3375
02:20:03,590 --> 02:20:00,319
talk to me i can't see them so

3376
02:20:05,670 --> 02:20:03,600
joe saw it happen so when i wake make

3377
02:20:07,429 --> 02:20:05,680
make my way back

3378
02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:07,439
they were like no none of them really

3379
02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:09,439
knew what what it was

3380
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:11,200
in which i said to him do you did you

3381
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:13,120
see this thing fly at me and they're

3382
02:20:15,750 --> 02:20:14,560
like no and i'm like oh no this thing

3383
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:15,760
flew with me

3384
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:18,720
so i ended up showing them the footage

3385
02:20:21,910 --> 02:20:20,880
in which they were blown we all went up

3386
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:21,920
there which is

3387
02:20:25,510 --> 02:20:23,760
in the film too and did everything we

3388
02:20:26,710 --> 02:20:25,520
could to try to recreate there's no

3389
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:26,720
chance

3390
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:29,040
but i didn't know until after the fact

3391
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:31,280
the sequence of events the train of

3392
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:32,880
events now

3393
02:20:36,790 --> 02:20:35,040
that's when they said to me

3394
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:36,800
graham said

3395
02:20:40,950 --> 02:20:38,880
well look these cushions get thrown

3396
02:20:43,990 --> 02:20:40,960
often when

3397
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:44,000
the girl ghost like we know she throws

3398
02:20:47,349 --> 02:20:46,000
them and sometimes it's when she just

3399
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:47,359
wants people to leave and he was like

3400
02:20:52,150 --> 02:20:50,319
it's amazing to see this but he said

3401
02:20:54,710 --> 02:20:52,160
but you pissed her off basically you

3402
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:54,720
know you're you're in the church

3403
02:20:59,590 --> 02:20:58,319
saying to john sage come here to the one

3404
02:21:01,510 --> 02:20:59,600
place

3405
02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:01,520
that he never comes and she doesn't want

3406
02:21:06,389 --> 02:21:03,840
him to come but then we put it together

3407
02:21:08,550 --> 02:21:06,399
that oh my god

3408
02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:08,560
she was telling my team because we're

3409
02:21:11,429 --> 02:21:10,000
not in connection i'm clearly not

3410
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:11,439
listening to her

3411
02:21:16,550 --> 02:21:14,080
she was telling my team he's not there

3412
02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:16,560
meaning john sage is not there stop

3413
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:19,040
calling for him right i mean the door

3414
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:21,520
that opened up right after that

3415
02:21:27,110 --> 02:21:24,000
was to the stairway

3416
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:27,120
to the stairway that goes up to me

3417
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:27,920
so

3418
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:29,920
when my team just went over and kieran

3419
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:32,000
basically said yeah no it was that door

3420
02:21:35,990 --> 02:21:34,000
but then they all just sat there

3421
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:36,000
right after that is when the cushion was

3422
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:38,560
stuck yeah she's not here she's she's

3423
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:41,040
upstairs in the in the sanctuary hey the

3424
02:21:43,510 --> 02:21:41,920
um

3425
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:43,520
or downs uh

3426
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:49,030
the reaction that you had

3427
02:21:53,510 --> 02:21:51,359
are you first off you can tell that your

3428
02:21:54,389 --> 02:21:53,520
heart explodes out of your chest i can

3429
02:21:55,670 --> 02:21:54,399
imagine

3430
02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:55,680
what went through your body at that

3431
02:22:01,990 --> 02:21:57,840
moment but

3432
02:22:04,469 --> 02:22:02,000
big o.g rough and tumble chad kalec

3433
02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:04,479
reacted like that when you look at are

3434
02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:06,160
you a little embarrassed

3435
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:09,359
scared

3436
02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:11,920
not at all man look people

3437
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:14,720
i have a lot of problems with the way

3438
02:22:20,630 --> 02:22:17,840
people act in this field in general and

3439
02:22:22,550 --> 02:22:20,640
this idea that if you know you're scared

3440
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:22,560
you're somehow like less of an

3441
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:25,200
investigator or i mean it's just like

3442
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:27,040
the stupidest [\h__\h] i've ever heard right

3443
02:22:30,309 --> 02:22:29,600
it's just not normal it's not normal you

3444
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:30,319
know

3445
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:33,439
got the cushion thrown on me anybody

3446
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:35,520
else want to go experience

3447
02:22:40,870 --> 02:22:37,760
yeah right right right right right so

3448
02:22:42,309 --> 02:22:40,880
and i also i don't i never i never never

3449
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:42,319
never want to be the guy that takes

3450
02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:44,800
himself too seriously i could laugh at

3451
02:22:50,630 --> 02:22:48,319
it we have some some uh deleted scenes

3452
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:50,640
of my team laughing at that footage we

3453
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:54,080
had to shoot that review so many times

3454
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:56,880
because they could not stop laughing i

3455
02:23:00,870 --> 02:22:59,680
left i laughed i i'm glad you say that

3456
02:23:03,670 --> 02:23:00,880
because

3457
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:03,680
uh i rewounded and watched it just so i

3458
02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:05,600
could laugh some more

3459
02:23:08,550 --> 02:23:06,479
it was

3460
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:08,560
you can't take yourself too seriously

3461
02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:09,760
it's just like people that are afraid to

3462
02:23:15,030 --> 02:23:12,160
be wrong about something it's just like

3463
02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:15,040
look man i i went out to do this years

3464
02:23:18,309 --> 02:23:15,920
ago

3465
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:18,319
to really honestly make an earnest

3466
02:23:22,870 --> 02:23:21,120
attempt to find answers for me and

3467
02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:22,880
through the process found this stuff to

3468
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:24,960
be fascinating right and just wanted to

3469
02:23:28,309 --> 02:23:27,600
share it you know if someone's gonna you

3470
02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:28,319
know

3471
02:23:32,790 --> 02:23:31,040
laugh because i'm did something that's

3472
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,800
funny well it's funny and if it's funny

3473
02:23:37,590 --> 02:23:35,359
i'm gonna laugh about it so you know i

3474
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:37,600
i've been really fortunate to travel the

3475
02:23:41,670 --> 02:23:39,680
world man and go to like

3476
02:23:43,750 --> 02:23:41,680
some of the most haunted locations and

3477
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:43,760
not only go to them but investigate them

3478
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:48,550
you mentioned this earlier that you know

3479
02:23:52,550 --> 02:23:51,439
the typical questions uh that that come

3480
02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:52,560
at you

3481
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:53,439
um

3482
02:23:57,830 --> 02:23:55,920
and and i'll avoid all of that but are

3483
02:23:58,830 --> 02:23:57,840
there locations that you don't want to

3484
02:24:01,750 --> 02:23:58,840
go back

3485
02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:01,760
to the only one i have no desire to go

3486
02:24:05,590 --> 02:24:03,040
back to

3487
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:05,600
is just my house in persia my childhood

3488
02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:07,600
home just because there's

3489
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:09,840
childhood fears are different those are

3490
02:24:15,110 --> 02:24:12,960
formative fears those are

3491
02:24:17,510 --> 02:24:15,120
that's that that that is rooted in my

3492
02:24:19,590 --> 02:24:17,520
soul man and when i went back there for

3493
02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:19,600
american ghost hunter and i went back in

3494
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:21,920
there i was in there all of maybe 30

3495
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:22,880
minutes

3496
02:24:27,429 --> 02:24:25,600
and it was excruciating and it was just

3497
02:24:29,349 --> 02:24:27,439
because there's so many negative

3498
02:24:30,710 --> 02:24:29,359
thoughts and memories and things that

3499
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:30,720
happened that

3500
02:24:34,150 --> 02:24:32,160
you know you spent most of my life

3501
02:24:36,309 --> 02:24:34,160
trying to forget you know so when you go

3502
02:24:38,150 --> 02:24:36,319
back in there but as far as that is

3503
02:24:41,270 --> 02:24:38,160
there any other place that has scared me

3504
02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:41,280
so bad that i would never go there again

3505
02:24:47,429 --> 02:24:42,640
no i

3506
02:24:49,110 --> 02:24:47,439
know give me all you got you know what i

3507
02:24:51,670 --> 02:24:49,120
mean when i go to a place i want to

3508
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:51,680
experience it all um

3509
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:53,280
there's cases and things i wouldn't do

3510
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:56,080
anymore i don't i wouldn't do anything

3511
02:25:00,550 --> 02:24:58,560
any demonic possession case anymore just

3512
02:25:02,230 --> 02:25:00,560
because i believe you have to have a

3513
02:25:04,389 --> 02:25:02,240
calling for that type of work it's the

3514
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:04,399
same type of thing it's so

3515
02:25:08,950 --> 02:25:07,040
depressing and i'm just not

3516
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:08,960
a person that's going to walk in and

3517
02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:11,040
direct the family spiritually i'm just

3518
02:25:14,790 --> 02:25:12,479
not that guy

3519
02:25:17,910 --> 02:25:14,800
um and i've been on a number of those

3520
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:17,920
cases from a pure documentary standpoint

3521
02:25:21,270 --> 02:25:19,120
and i've dealt with it with my own

3522
02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:21,280
mother so it's just not something i want

3523
02:25:23,750 --> 02:25:22,080
to

3524
02:25:26,070 --> 02:25:23,760
take part in anymore

3525
02:25:28,630 --> 02:25:26,080
and as and in general as far as ghost

3526
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:28,640
hunting anymore i've got my answers

3527
02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:30,960
but i do enjoy taking people to places

3528
02:25:36,790 --> 02:25:33,600
and seeing their experiences and seeing

3529
02:25:38,309 --> 02:25:36,800
it become real to them that's fun for me

3530
02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:38,319
and obviously i'm a natural-born

3531
02:25:41,030 --> 02:25:40,080
storyteller so i like

3532
02:25:42,550 --> 02:25:41,040
sharing

3533
02:25:44,389 --> 02:25:42,560
you know the memories that i have and

3534
02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:44,399
the stories that i have these places but

3535
02:25:47,590 --> 02:25:45,920
yeah there's nothing that scares me so

3536
02:25:50,389 --> 02:25:47,600
bad that i wouldn't go back to

3537
02:25:53,830 --> 02:25:50,399
is there um there's so many shows out

3538
02:25:56,070 --> 02:25:53,840
there now and and i understand why i

3539
02:25:58,469 --> 02:25:56,080
mean it it's great stuff but

3540
02:26:01,750 --> 02:25:58,479
is is there a show that that you

3541
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:04,150
um i don't watch any of the paranormal

3542
02:26:08,230 --> 02:26:06,319
like every now and then uh i would i

3543
02:26:09,590 --> 02:26:08,240
would check in on what katrina's up to

3544
02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:09,600
just because she's a friend you know i

3545
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:12,000
mean so i i whether she's running around

3546
02:26:14,870 --> 02:26:13,840
with jack or doing her own stuff i would

3547
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:14,880
check out

3548
02:26:20,469 --> 02:26:17,920
uh the one the one guy that i've always

3549
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:20,479
liked a lot and it's more crypto

3550
02:26:23,590 --> 02:26:21,840
mysteries but i love pretty much

3551
02:26:26,630 --> 02:26:23,600
anything with josh gates

3552
02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:26,640
i just think he's very intelligent very

3553
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:29,920
funny he he approaches things kind of in

3554
02:26:33,670 --> 02:26:31,600
the way that i do it's like you don't

3555
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:33,680
take yourself too seriously you know

3556
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:35,680
what i mean but he knows when to get

3557
02:26:40,710 --> 02:26:38,399
serious you know what i'm saying um

3558
02:26:42,389 --> 02:26:40,720
so yeah i loved the destination truth

3559
02:26:44,630 --> 02:26:42,399
when it was on and his

3560
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:44,640
um i forget the name of his nuance oh

3561
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,960
expedition unknown expeditionary

3562
02:26:50,469 --> 02:26:48,800
intermission unknown yeah so i've caught

3563
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:50,479
some episodes of that

3564
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:51,520
um

3565
02:26:54,389 --> 02:26:53,600
i don't watch a lot of the ghost shows

3566
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:54,399
uh

3567
02:26:59,110 --> 02:26:57,520
to be honest and this is not a crack in

3568
02:27:00,790 --> 02:26:59,120
anybody because you know we're all gonna

3569
02:27:02,309 --> 02:27:00,800
make our own decisions but

3570
02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:02,319
most of them are entertainment-based

3571
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:03,920
they're not really trying to find

3572
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:04,960
evidence and if they don't get it

3573
02:27:09,110 --> 02:27:06,560
they're faking the [\h__\h] out of it and

3574
02:27:11,429 --> 02:27:09,120
it's hard for me as somebody

3575
02:27:13,349 --> 02:27:11,439
who i mean look i can tell you i would

3576
02:27:15,429 --> 02:27:13,359
take the polygraph man i have never

3577
02:27:17,349 --> 02:27:15,439
faked a piece of evidence in my life

3578
02:27:18,950 --> 02:27:17,359
to me that defeats the entire purpose of

3579
02:27:20,790 --> 02:27:18,960
even leaving your home why would you go

3580
02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:20,800
do that right right

3581
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:23,359
so just knowing the things that i know

3582
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:25,200
and the way things work

3583
02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,880
i i don't

3584
02:27:30,469 --> 02:27:28,800
watch a lot of them but i understand

3585
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:30,479
look 99

3586
02:27:33,590 --> 02:27:32,240
of most viewers are casual viewers that

3587
02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:33,600
just want to have fun

3588
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:35,200
i just want to be scared and just you

3589
02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:36,960
know and i get that i mean i totally get

3590
02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:38,560
it um

3591
02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:40,960
but yeah like i said josh gates shows

3592
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:43,200
i've always liked his stuff

3593
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:44,640
you know i did watch you know what there

3594
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,479
was a paranormal whole series that i

3595
02:27:49,910 --> 02:27:48,240
watched that blew me away

3596
02:27:51,590 --> 02:27:49,920
it was on like one of

3597
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:51,600
god it was like one of those long lists

3598
02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:54,319
of hulu paranormal films it was called

3599
02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:56,479
paranormal 9-1-1

3600
02:28:01,910 --> 02:27:58,960
and it was like cops

3601
02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:01,920
uh you know emt workers

3602
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:04,720
uh security guards people that are not

3603
02:28:08,710 --> 02:28:06,160
in the paranormal that had these

3604
02:28:11,030 --> 02:28:08,720
tremendous experiences and it was a

3605
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:11,040
recreation show and i found that

3606
02:28:15,110 --> 02:28:13,200
incredibly compelling

3607
02:28:16,950 --> 02:28:15,120
for the fact that these were not people

3608
02:28:18,710 --> 02:28:16,960
in this world and when they would

3609
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:18,720
explain this they would have such

3610
02:28:22,630 --> 02:28:20,160
emotion to the way that they would

3611
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:22,640
explain what occurred and i really

3612
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:24,160
enjoyed that it was literally called

3613
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:26,720
paranormal 9-1-1 it was on hulu i

3614
02:28:31,510 --> 02:28:28,800
thought that was really cool yeah yeah i

3615
02:28:32,710 --> 02:28:31,520
i caught some of that too as well i i

3616
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:32,720
like uh

3617
02:28:38,710 --> 02:28:37,600
um uh that was uh well that was pretty

3618
02:28:40,389 --> 02:28:38,720
cool that's where the kids are running

3619
02:28:42,389 --> 02:28:40,399
around all the synchronicities yeah yeah

3620
02:28:43,750 --> 02:28:42,399
yeah yeah yeah i i watch a couple

3621
02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:43,760
episodes a day yeah that was pretty cool

3622
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:46,240
yeah yeah that was uh it was different i

3623
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:49,120
liked it totally season one and season

3624
02:28:52,230 --> 02:28:50,080
two

3625
02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:52,240
chasing synchronicities

3626
02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:55,439
uh which we don't do enough of honestly

3627
02:29:00,469 --> 02:28:57,359
i'm way into that yeah

3628
02:29:02,469 --> 02:29:00,479
chasing synchronicities and uh

3629
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:02,479
those two seasons were really good and i

3630
02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:04,560
also liked it you know let me bring this

3631
02:29:08,070 --> 02:29:05,760
up this is really interesting you bring

3632
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:08,080
the synchronicity thing up so i've been

3633
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:09,920
i don't know why but i've been studying

3634
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,720
la history a lot and i got into

3635
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:14,319
a lot of the serial killers and it was

3636
02:29:18,469 --> 02:29:16,000
amazing how many of them came out at

3637
02:29:21,910 --> 02:29:18,479
once in los angeles from the hillside

3638
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:21,920
strangler to the toolbox killers to

3639
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:23,920
the sunset strip killers a lot of stuff

3640
02:29:28,550 --> 02:29:25,920
but here's something really weird the

3641
02:29:30,070 --> 02:29:28,560
sunset strip killers which killer which

3642
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:30,080
was a serial killer

3643
02:29:35,750 --> 02:29:34,160
he was found and arrested by a girl

3644
02:29:38,630 --> 02:29:35,760
who helped him do the murders and just

3645
02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:38,640
got tired of doing it because this guy

3646
02:29:42,630 --> 02:29:41,040
would have this girl go out and pick up

3647
02:29:44,469 --> 02:29:42,640
another girl under the pretext they

3648
02:29:46,070 --> 02:29:44,479
would have a threesome but he would

3649
02:29:47,750 --> 02:29:46,080
never have the threesome with the girl

3650
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:47,760
he would just be with the girl they

3651
02:29:52,870 --> 02:29:49,840
picked up and kill her girl got tired of

3652
02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:52,880
it her name was carol bundy

3653
02:29:57,990 --> 02:29:54,960
okay what now what's really what's

3654
02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:58,000
really odd about this ted bundy right

3655
02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:00,240
when he was in jail

3656
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:02,560
met a girl named carol a different last

3657
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:04,560
name but she married him

3658
02:30:11,270 --> 02:30:07,600
and her name became carol bundy

3659
02:30:13,110 --> 02:30:11,280
isn't that bizarre that is way bizarre

3660
02:30:15,990 --> 02:30:13,120
with synchronicities that's weird [\h__\h]

3661
02:30:17,429 --> 02:30:16,000
right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i just

3662
02:30:19,270 --> 02:30:17,439
watched uh

3663
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:19,280
i watched

3664
02:30:24,630 --> 02:30:23,520
uh a documentary uh about

3665
02:30:29,510 --> 02:30:24,640
uh

3666
02:30:42,230 --> 02:30:29,520
the torso killer in new york in

3667
02:30:45,750 --> 02:30:44,070
did you know about it before you saw the

3668
02:30:47,910 --> 02:30:45,760
documentary

3669
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:47,920
not at all and the footage of that of

3670
02:30:53,670 --> 02:30:51,280
new york back in the day oh my god oh

3671
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:53,680
man that was a trip dude oh

3672
02:30:58,830 --> 02:30:57,830
right

3673
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:58,840
yeah

3674
02:31:03,590 --> 02:31:00,800
incredible i just never i just never

3675
02:31:05,510 --> 02:31:03,600
knew that in la for a while

3676
02:31:07,349 --> 02:31:05,520
it like became this hip thing to be a

3677
02:31:09,349 --> 02:31:07,359
stereotype all these all these cases

3678
02:31:10,429 --> 02:31:09,359
happened at once yeah from 19 it was

3679
02:31:13,990 --> 02:31:10,439
like

3680
02:31:15,110 --> 02:31:14,000
1968 you know if you go back to uh

3681
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:15,120
manson

3682
02:31:21,190 --> 02:31:18,880
um in 1968 to like 1985 that was the

3683
02:31:23,429 --> 02:31:21,200
heyday of serial killers

3684
02:31:25,670 --> 02:31:23,439
right these cops in this in this

3685
02:31:27,750 --> 02:31:25,680
documentary series people can watch

3686
02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,760
there's a great series called city of

3687
02:31:33,349 --> 02:31:30,240
angels city of death yeah zulu yes and

3688
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:33,359
it covers all of those and i had no idea

3689
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:35,920
that the same time

3690
02:31:40,830 --> 02:31:38,160
that the hillside strangler was going on

3691
02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:40,840
the toolbox killers was going on night

3692
02:31:45,670 --> 02:31:43,359
stalkers were going on night stalkers

3693
02:31:47,670 --> 02:31:45,680
what yes yeah the night stalker it's

3694
02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:47,680
like like everybody like wanted to be a

3695
02:31:53,030 --> 02:31:50,560
serial killer it was bizarre man it's so

3696
02:31:55,030 --> 02:31:53,040
bizarre and all of those

3697
02:31:58,230 --> 02:31:55,040
yeah yeah yeah and you think about uh

3698
02:32:01,190 --> 02:31:58,240
what was going on in the sunset strip um

3699
02:32:03,590 --> 02:32:01,200
in 84 85 86 you know 10 000 people on

3700
02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:03,600
the strip and and meanwhile you got the

3701
02:32:08,230 --> 02:32:06,240
night stalker running around

3702
02:32:10,469 --> 02:32:08,240
um yeah it was it was just crazy let's

3703
02:32:12,469 --> 02:32:10,479
take you're

3704
02:32:14,150 --> 02:32:12,479
you're going to stay for overtime

3705
02:32:16,630 --> 02:32:14,160
so you just stay right there no you're

3706
02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:16,640
not going anywhere chad stay right there

3707
02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:18,160
we're going to pick up this conversation

3708
02:32:22,710 --> 02:32:20,399
when we come back i've got more to

3709
02:32:25,510 --> 02:32:22,720
discuss with chad caleb the new film is

3710
02:32:27,190 --> 02:32:25,520
called 74 minutes

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02:32:29,830 --> 02:32:27,200
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too as well

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a g h television dot com i'll be right

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um

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02:38:02,950 --> 02:38:01,190
welcome back paint to black i'm your

3813
02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:02,960
host jimmy church tonight chad caleb

3814
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,040
we're talking about his new film it's

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02:38:09,670 --> 02:38:07,680
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02:38:12,230 --> 02:38:09,680
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3817
02:38:13,750 --> 02:38:12,240
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02:38:14,950 --> 02:38:13,760
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02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:17,359
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02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:18,960
felt

3822
02:38:23,830 --> 02:38:21,200
mode 150 pounds lighter he's got a lot

3823
02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:23,840
to say now he's got all the energy he's

3824
02:38:28,389 --> 02:38:25,920
got all the energy now i want to change

3825
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:28,399
gears i want to get off the film uh a

3826
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:30,720
little bit here uh chad

3827
02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:32,800
and and and talk about some other

3828
02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:35,520
elements of this because

3829
02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:39,600
uh you have chosen uh to to bring this

3830
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:41,359
forward

3831
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:44,240
to show everybody why you are who you

3832
02:38:48,389 --> 02:38:45,359
are today

3833
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:48,399
and i have great respect for that but

3834
02:38:52,710 --> 02:38:51,200
how has it changed you

3835
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:52,720
were you

3836
02:38:57,670 --> 02:38:55,520
a believer in ghost always

3837
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:57,680
were you skeptical

3838
02:39:02,790 --> 02:38:58,560
and

3839
02:39:06,790 --> 02:39:04,870
well no i mean i grew up

3840
02:39:10,150 --> 02:39:06,800
a complete

3841
02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:10,160
disbeliever completely atheist as well

3842
02:39:15,670 --> 02:39:12,640
uh that's why it took

3843
02:39:17,750 --> 02:39:15,680
me such a long time once i moved into

3844
02:39:19,349 --> 02:39:17,760
our house in persia iowa

3845
02:39:21,910 --> 02:39:19,359
and i talked about this a lot in

3846
02:39:23,830 --> 02:39:21,920
american ghost hunter how

3847
02:39:25,830 --> 02:39:23,840
i honestly believed for a time period

3848
02:39:27,349 --> 02:39:25,840
that somebody in my family was faking

3849
02:39:30,389 --> 02:39:27,359
stuff and

3850
02:39:31,510 --> 02:39:30,399
um until things started happening when

3851
02:39:33,670 --> 02:39:31,520
those members were family weren't

3852
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:33,680
present when i was alone

3853
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:35,200
um

3854
02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:39,040
how it's changed me the most is i do

3855
02:39:43,750 --> 02:39:42,000
have less of a fear of of this stuff in

3856
02:39:45,590 --> 02:39:43,760
fact i don't have

3857
02:39:47,590 --> 02:39:45,600
there's nothing being startled and

3858
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:47,600
scared in the moment versus like do you

3859
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:48,960
fear something

3860
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:51,280
um if i feared something i wouldn't i

3861
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:53,439
wouldn't consistently go after it you

3862
02:39:57,349 --> 02:39:55,200
know over and over again

3863
02:39:58,870 --> 02:39:57,359
i think it's just led me to a place

3864
02:40:01,510 --> 02:39:58,880
where

3865
02:40:03,270 --> 02:40:01,520
i have an understanding

3866
02:40:04,870 --> 02:40:03,280
of

3867
02:40:06,389 --> 02:40:04,880
what i think this stuff is and i don't

3868
02:40:07,910 --> 02:40:06,399
want to give too much away because at

3869
02:40:10,630 --> 02:40:07,920
the end of the film i kind of talk about

3870
02:40:12,389 --> 02:40:10,640
it but i do think

3871
02:40:15,670 --> 02:40:12,399
that if we

3872
02:40:18,550 --> 02:40:15,680
could ever prove this stuff

3873
02:40:21,269 --> 02:40:18,560
to an infinite degree

3874
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:21,279
it's like there would be no reason

3875
02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:23,439
for faith or anything like that that's

3876
02:40:27,349 --> 02:40:25,040
one thing that blew me away about sir no

3877
02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:27,359
faces i truly believed i was like we've

3878
02:40:32,070 --> 02:40:29,439
got it we've got the evidence that will

3879
02:40:34,469 --> 02:40:32,080
prove it that we you know this

3880
02:40:36,630 --> 02:40:34,479
and we spent so much time

3881
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:36,640
showing that there's nothing else and i

3882
02:40:39,670 --> 02:40:37,920
went through that whole tour and that

3883
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:39,680
one person said to me

3884
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,600
that's not a ghost you know what they

3885
02:40:45,830 --> 02:40:43,520
said to me it's an alien it was just

3886
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:45,840
like okay i give up man there's just no

3887
02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:46,720
way

3888
02:40:50,950 --> 02:40:48,399
to actually prove this stuff and i think

3889
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:50,960
that's the thing what do you mean

3890
02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:52,080
let me stop you right there what do you

3891
02:40:56,230 --> 02:40:53,840
mean there's no reason to have faith

3892
02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:56,240
there's no reason to be good

3893
02:41:00,469 --> 02:40:57,279
like if

3894
02:41:02,469 --> 02:41:00,479
if we prove that there is another place

3895
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:02,479
after death and there's no reason to

3896
02:41:06,710 --> 02:41:04,319
behave and you just

3897
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:06,720
you know let's just burn this thing down

3898
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:09,200
if we know if we know

3899
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:12,240
that we are in fact going to a different

3900
02:41:17,349 --> 02:41:14,560
place if we know for sure 100 for sure

3901
02:41:20,309 --> 02:41:17,359
and i'm a believer that that we do

3902
02:41:23,269 --> 02:41:20,319
100 for sure if we know that there is

3903
02:41:24,630 --> 02:41:23,279
another side there is a next level

3904
02:41:26,230 --> 02:41:24,640
now that brings about all kinds of

3905
02:41:28,070 --> 02:41:26,240
beliefs well

3906
02:41:29,830 --> 02:41:28,080
how does that work right

3907
02:41:32,950 --> 02:41:29,840
did the things that i did in this

3908
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:32,960
lifetime affect that of where i go and

3909
02:41:36,630 --> 02:41:35,040
what do i do is there a difference

3910
02:41:38,870 --> 02:41:36,640
between negative energy and positive

3911
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:38,880
energy we know scientifically there is

3912
02:41:43,110 --> 02:41:41,120
there's protons and neutrons there's you

3913
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:43,120
know there's all kinds of so i think

3914
02:41:47,190 --> 02:41:44,960
that if we could

3915
02:41:49,030 --> 02:41:47,200
ever like to the scientific community

3916
02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:49,040
right and get like you said you met with

3917
02:41:52,309 --> 02:41:50,720
that scientist and the second you or

3918
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:52,319
this person brought up a ghost or

3919
02:41:55,590 --> 02:41:53,920
something like i don't got time for [\h__\h]

3920
02:41:57,590 --> 02:41:55,600
i don't believe that right you know they

3921
02:41:59,110 --> 02:41:57,600
just instantly cut it down

3922
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:59,120
but

3923
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:01,279
i don't think i've always felt that

3924
02:42:05,110 --> 02:42:03,359
there is a spirituality

3925
02:42:06,469 --> 02:42:05,120
to the other side

3926
02:42:08,469 --> 02:42:06,479
now

3927
02:42:10,309 --> 02:42:08,479
what we choose to believe that is that's

3928
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:10,319
personal

3929
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:12,960
but in my world if if i could ever

3930
02:42:18,710 --> 02:42:15,840
capture something on film

3931
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:18,720
and prove to a scientist beyond a shadow

3932
02:42:23,429 --> 02:42:20,240
of a doubt

3933
02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:23,439
they would say yes this is real and this

3934
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:24,800
means that there's another plane of

3935
02:42:29,830 --> 02:42:26,960
existence that we go to when we get

3936
02:42:31,990 --> 02:42:29,840
there i think it totally lessens

3937
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:32,000
the need to have faith that there's some

3938
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:34,560
place that you will go once you die

3939
02:42:39,990 --> 02:42:37,359
i mean it's it i would have a tendency

3940
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:40,000
to believe that most people have some

3941
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:41,760
kind of fear of what happens when they

3942
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:44,080
die yeah because they don't know maybe

3943
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:44,960
nothing

3944
02:42:50,230 --> 02:42:46,960
it kind of well

3945
02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:50,240
that's right and in a weird way

3946
02:42:53,510 --> 02:42:52,160
now listen i'm choosing my words

3947
02:42:55,429 --> 02:42:53,520
carefully

3948
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,439
but in a weird way

3949
02:42:59,190 --> 02:42:57,840
it forces us

3950
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:59,200
to behave

3951
02:43:01,190 --> 02:43:00,399
right

3952
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:01,200
now

3953
02:43:05,110 --> 02:43:03,680
it certainly makes you think about what

3954
02:43:08,309 --> 02:43:05,120
matters

3955
02:43:10,469 --> 02:43:08,319
yes yes yes right so if you take that if

3956
02:43:13,190 --> 02:43:10,479
you take that away

3957
02:43:16,309 --> 02:43:13,200
a holy crap right for those that were

3958
02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:16,319
playing on this side of the line because

3959
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:18,479
and suddenly they don't have to play on

3960
02:43:22,630 --> 02:43:21,040
the side of the line anymore

3961
02:43:23,750 --> 02:43:22,640
maybe not yeah

3962
02:43:26,389 --> 02:43:23,760
i mean

3963
02:43:29,190 --> 02:43:26,399
i i i just think that there's

3964
02:43:31,990 --> 02:43:29,200
the one consistency in every piece of

3965
02:43:35,590 --> 02:43:32,000
evidence that i've ever seen or captured

3966
02:43:38,070 --> 02:43:35,600
is that there's always just enough

3967
02:43:39,349 --> 02:43:38,080
you can come up with something to create

3968
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:39,359
doubt

3969
02:43:43,990 --> 02:43:41,600
right there's always it's just blurry or

3970
02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:44,000
it's just off camera or even with even

3971
02:43:47,910 --> 02:43:45,680
the chairs like the chair moves but we

3972
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:47,920
didn't see the feet of the chair or like

3973
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:50,560
it just always that's the consistency

3974
02:43:56,150 --> 02:43:52,720
right the consistency is all evidences

3975
02:43:57,510 --> 02:43:56,160
like that yeah bigfoot ufos

3976
02:44:01,269 --> 02:43:57,520
ghosts

3977
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:01,279
yes yeah yeah it's all that reason where

3978
02:44:05,429 --> 02:44:04,160
to some degree you to have faith to

3979
02:44:07,110 --> 02:44:05,439
believe in it

3980
02:44:08,389 --> 02:44:07,120
to say it's real to some degree whether

3981
02:44:10,950 --> 02:44:08,399
that's faith in the person telling the

3982
02:44:13,030 --> 02:44:10,960
story or faith in your own senses when

3983
02:44:14,389 --> 02:44:13,040
you experience it as what happened you

3984
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:14,399
got to have faith

3985
02:44:17,590 --> 02:44:15,920
you wouldn't need to if you knew for

3986
02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:17,600
sure and could prove it you wouldn't

3987
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:20,640
need to have faith so uh

3988
02:44:24,309 --> 02:44:23,120
it has been said and i tend to agree

3989
02:44:26,389 --> 02:44:24,319
with this

3990
02:44:30,309 --> 02:44:26,399
that humans

3991
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:30,319
are the only species on this planet

3992
02:44:34,389 --> 02:44:33,040
that contemplates and has the ability to

3993
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:34,399
contemplate

3994
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:36,319
life after death

3995
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:39,040
right animals don't do it insects don't

3996
02:44:44,309 --> 02:44:41,040
do it or we think that they don't do it

3997
02:44:46,150 --> 02:44:44,319
and and they probably don't right

3998
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:46,160
they're always living in the now they're

3999
02:44:50,309 --> 02:44:48,000
living in the moment and that they don't

4000
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:50,319
contemplate maybe primates i don't know

4001
02:44:55,110 --> 02:44:52,000
i don't know

4002
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:55,120
right yeah they certainly seem sad when

4003
02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:58,800
one of their uh siblings or friends uh

4004
02:45:05,269 --> 02:45:01,760
dies but anyway

4005
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:05,279
is that the one sacred thing

4006
02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:08,240
that maybe we just leave out there and

4007
02:45:12,070 --> 02:45:10,720
try not to conquer the one question that

4008
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:12,080
we have thought about since the

4009
02:45:16,309 --> 02:45:14,640
beginning the dawn of man right what

4010
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:16,319
happens after we die

4011
02:45:20,230 --> 02:45:18,640
do we just leave that alone

4012
02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:20,240
you don't want to try to prove that

4013
02:45:24,070 --> 02:45:21,680
anymore it's what you're saying you're

4014
02:45:26,469 --> 02:45:24,080
you're not trying to i've just come into

4015
02:45:29,429 --> 02:45:26,479
i've came to the conclusion that

4016
02:45:30,389 --> 02:45:29,439
right now with the resources that i have

4017
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:30,399
and

4018
02:45:38,070 --> 02:45:36,160
that's

4019
02:45:39,510 --> 02:45:38,080
you know coming from somebody who

4020
02:45:41,590 --> 02:45:39,520
three four years ago that's why i say

4021
02:45:43,830 --> 02:45:41,600
people can't people can't be afraid to

4022
02:45:46,870 --> 02:45:43,840
be wrong about [\h__\h] or guess about

4023
02:45:48,230 --> 02:45:46,880
things i mean i was just so certain that

4024
02:45:49,670 --> 02:45:48,240
i had it

4025
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:49,680
proven that

4026
02:45:57,190 --> 02:45:50,560
that

4027
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:57,200
it's like i can experience the truth and

4028
02:46:00,550 --> 02:45:59,279
i can film the truth but i can't give

4029
02:46:02,070 --> 02:46:00,560
you the truth

4030
02:46:04,790 --> 02:46:02,080
you know what i mean i can show it to

4031
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:04,800
you but i can't make you take it in and

4032
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:07,120
it's true to you you have to experience

4033
02:46:11,030 --> 02:46:08,720
it no matter what

4034
02:46:13,510 --> 02:46:11,040
no matter what like you have to

4035
02:46:14,309 --> 02:46:13,520
experience it and i guess at the end of

4036
02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:14,319
the day

4037
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:16,080
i i hope

4038
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:18,319
that my work showed people why i feel

4039
02:46:21,670 --> 02:46:19,760
the way i feel but i hope it just

4040
02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:21,680
inspires

4041
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:23,120
for people that have these questions i

4042
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:24,800
think most people in their life get to a

4043
02:46:28,070 --> 02:46:25,920
point where they really do start

4044
02:46:29,349 --> 02:46:28,080
thinking about life after death the

4045
02:46:31,269 --> 02:46:29,359
other side

4046
02:46:33,349 --> 02:46:31,279
what happens when i go like all those

4047
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:33,359
types of things you know are ghosts real

4048
02:46:38,469 --> 02:46:36,160
is spirituality real like i would hope

4049
02:46:40,630 --> 02:46:38,479
that this body of work

4050
02:46:42,389 --> 02:46:40,640
that i put out there would just

4051
02:46:44,150 --> 02:46:42,399
inspire someone to say i want to find

4052
02:47:11,510 --> 02:46:44,160
out for myself i want to go to

4053
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:13,750
so like you said like insert no face

4054
02:47:17,990 --> 02:47:15,200
right and somebody get that's not a

4055
02:47:19,590 --> 02:47:18,000
ghost that's an alien and you look at

4056
02:47:23,750 --> 02:47:19,600
something like

4057
02:47:26,309 --> 02:47:23,760
the gimlin patterson bigfoot film

4058
02:47:28,150 --> 02:47:26,319
one of the craziest pieces of film in

4059
02:47:30,710 --> 02:47:28,160
human history right

4060
02:47:32,550 --> 02:47:30,720
people look at that and go it's not real

4061
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:32,560
right it's so

4062
02:47:43,030 --> 02:47:39,510
you would have the same issues

4063
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:43,040
if you had the definitive ghost shot

4064
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:45,760
right i i mean ago comes up i am the

4065
02:47:49,269 --> 02:47:47,120
ghost of

4066
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:49,279
what you know and and sits down and

4067
02:47:52,950 --> 02:47:51,600
talks to you on camera

4068
02:47:54,790 --> 02:47:52,960
yeah

4069
02:47:56,950 --> 02:47:54,800
which is so weird because society

4070
02:47:58,790 --> 02:47:56,960
doesn't it doesn't accept a personal

4071
02:48:00,950 --> 02:47:58,800
experience when it comes to that stuff

4072
02:48:02,309 --> 02:48:00,960
but yet i could go to a courtroom right

4073
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:02,319
and say there's a murder case and i

4074
02:48:08,870 --> 02:48:05,439
could go i saw him shoot him and they go

4075
02:48:12,790 --> 02:48:08,880
good enough life yeah why why

4076
02:48:15,429 --> 02:48:12,800
but why is that why is it that uh with

4077
02:48:18,790 --> 02:48:15,439
evidence this that film video

4078
02:48:21,750 --> 02:48:18,800
photographs fleer heat that you know

4079
02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:21,760
night vision we have all of this

4080
02:48:27,429 --> 02:48:24,479
but witness testimony means nothing

4081
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:27,439
right but you are absolutely right a

4082
02:48:33,510 --> 02:48:30,080
witness a witness would put you in the

4083
02:48:35,269 --> 02:48:33,520
electric chair all right

4084
02:48:37,190 --> 02:48:35,279
only in this arena of the paranormal

4085
02:48:38,950 --> 02:48:37,200
does it not matter right but in real

4086
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:38,960
life like i mean if you're an attorney

4087
02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:40,960
and you go you have an eyewitness

4088
02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:54,550
i just watched this jfk revisited

4089
02:48:58,950 --> 02:48:56,960
documentary that oliver stone just put

4090
02:49:01,030 --> 02:48:58,960
out and it's hilarious it's like it's

4091
02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:01,040
the same it's like now we have even more

4092
02:49:05,750 --> 02:49:03,760
stuff to prove what we saw that day when

4093
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:05,760
what we saw that day was correct he got

4094
02:49:09,110 --> 02:49:07,040
hit in the front in the back there was

4095
02:49:11,590 --> 02:49:09,120
multiple shots we knew it when we saw it

4096
02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:11,600
and we were told forever not real oh

4097
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:13,840
you're one of those oswald how to

4098
02:49:17,990 --> 02:49:16,399
conspiracy guys you know it's just like

4099
02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:18,000
and you find out it's like oh no it was

4100
02:49:22,389 --> 02:49:20,000
exactly what it looked like it was

4101
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,399
exactly what the eyewitness testimony

4102
02:49:25,830 --> 02:49:24,720
said multiple people shot to do the

4103
02:49:27,349 --> 02:49:25,840
three shades you know what i mean it's

4104
02:49:28,790 --> 02:49:27,359
just like yes

4105
02:49:31,190 --> 02:49:28,800
but in the end that no the iowa's

4106
02:49:32,469 --> 02:49:31,200
testimony was exactly right you know and

4107
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:32,479
it's there's a lot of things in the

4108
02:49:36,070 --> 02:49:34,240
paranormal like that where

4109
02:49:38,230 --> 02:49:36,080
our conspiracy world looks like in

4110
02:49:41,110 --> 02:49:38,240
today's world that's why i just watched

4111
02:49:43,110 --> 02:49:41,120
don't look up on netflix oh incredible

4112
02:49:44,950 --> 02:49:43,120
tell me you loved it yeah tell me you

4113
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:44,960
loved it yeah i loved it because who in

4114
02:49:49,670 --> 02:49:46,960
this lifetime would have ever thought

4115
02:49:51,190 --> 02:49:49,680
that science and fact would be an enemy

4116
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:51,200
you know what i mean who would ever

4117
02:49:55,670 --> 02:49:53,200
thought

4118
02:49:57,030 --> 02:49:55,680
but like that's where at right now you

4119
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:57,040
know if you don't want something to be

4120
02:50:01,349 --> 02:49:59,120
something anymore you just go wasn't it

4121
02:50:03,269 --> 02:50:01,359
yeah yeah

4122
02:50:05,190 --> 02:50:03,279
jonah hill right the chief of staff

4123
02:50:06,150 --> 02:50:05,200
sitting in the oval office

4124
02:50:11,670 --> 02:50:06,160
uh

4125
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:11,680
the scientist right the astronomer the

4126
02:50:15,590 --> 02:50:14,080
astrophysicist

4127
02:50:19,190 --> 02:50:15,600
and he turns to her and calls her the

4128
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:20,630
and

4129
02:50:26,070 --> 02:50:21,520
that

4130
02:50:30,630 --> 02:50:26,080
know the irony

4131
02:50:33,110 --> 02:50:30,640
uh and the definition of of ironic

4132
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:33,120
and and the cause and effect of of

4133
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:35,200
things and that right there

4134
02:50:41,110 --> 02:50:38,319
like encapsulated that moment

4135
02:50:43,750 --> 02:50:41,120
of of society today

4136
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:43,760
and i just thought

4137
02:50:47,190 --> 02:50:46,000
that was one of the most realistic

4138
02:50:54,150 --> 02:50:47,200
uh

4139
02:50:58,389 --> 02:50:54,160
directed it but he captured

4140
02:51:01,110 --> 02:50:58,399
um this this ironic thing that is going

4141
02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:01,120
on with society today and media and

4142
02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:04,479
politics and science and things

4143
02:51:08,790 --> 02:51:07,279
uh i thought it was just incredible

4144
02:51:10,630 --> 02:51:08,800
uh yeah i just never thought i would

4145
02:51:12,630 --> 02:51:10,640
live in a world where you could watch

4146
02:51:14,389 --> 02:51:12,640
something happen like as plain as day

4147
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:14,399
and if someone just go ah it didn't

4148
02:51:16,309 --> 02:51:15,200
happen

4149
02:51:18,309 --> 02:51:16,319
we're gonna have to do a uh

4150
02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:18,319
investigation into it like what but i

4151
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:24,150
don't look up what don't look up at the

4152
02:51:27,590 --> 02:51:25,840
comment that's coming to destroy the

4153
02:51:30,150 --> 02:51:27,600
world just don't look up don't look up

4154
02:51:31,429 --> 02:51:30,160
just don't look at it and uh it was so

4155
02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:31,439
funny so what are we what are you guys

4156
02:51:36,710 --> 02:51:33,840
gonna do we're going to take a couple of

4157
02:51:48,389 --> 02:51:36,720
weeks to assess

4158
02:51:52,790 --> 02:51:49,990
while you're doing that just switch it

4159
02:51:55,990 --> 02:51:52,800
over to speakers and and and and okay

4160
02:51:57,030 --> 02:51:56,000
gotcha okay are you good

4161
02:51:59,590 --> 02:51:57,040
i see

4162
02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:59,600
now he can't hear me i'm gonna have to

4163
02:52:03,830 --> 02:52:01,120
sign

4164
02:52:05,349 --> 02:52:03,840
i'm going to hello

4165
02:52:06,120 --> 02:52:05,359
okay okay

4166
02:52:07,269 --> 02:52:06,130
and um

4167
02:52:10,230 --> 02:52:07,279
[Music]

4168
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:10,240
but i hopefully you can hear me now

4169
02:52:17,269 --> 02:52:13,520
and i want every okay you can

4170
02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:17,279
it's agh television.com i'm looking at

4171
02:52:22,070 --> 02:52:20,160
the comments here where can we uh uh go

4172
02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:22,080
and see this it's five dollars cheaper

4173
02:52:28,630 --> 02:52:24,880
there it's five dollars cheaper

4174
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:28,640
there's a comment here uh by uh

4175
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,720
uh david pendleton

4176
02:52:36,309 --> 02:52:32,399
and he says this

4177
02:52:37,269 --> 02:52:36,319
he says is the only reason that you are

4178
02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:37,279
good

4179
02:52:40,630 --> 02:52:39,359
is somebody frying

4180
02:52:46,389 --> 02:52:40,640
your

4181
02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:46,399
are you good or

4182
02:52:53,750 --> 02:52:48,880
just kept in a state of fearful

4183
02:52:56,309 --> 02:52:53,760
obedience to a man-made construct

4184
02:52:58,630 --> 02:52:56,319
and that's that's that that sounds like

4185
02:53:01,750 --> 02:52:58,640
a whole episode to me yeah yeah

4186
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:01,760
i mean that that is so well put

4187
02:53:04,150 --> 02:53:02,800
and

4188
02:53:08,309 --> 02:53:04,160
the uh

4189
02:53:10,230 --> 02:53:08,319
the level of uh control that i think

4190
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:10,240
started off for good reasons you know

4191
02:53:13,590 --> 02:53:12,479
five ten thousand years ago

4192
02:53:16,030 --> 02:53:13,600
where

4193
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:16,040
you just had to

4194
02:53:19,590 --> 02:53:17,920
convince

4195
02:53:21,830 --> 02:53:19,600
your your village

4196
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:21,840
you know your little your little group

4197
02:53:27,750 --> 02:53:24,800
of people that you're the leader of

4198
02:53:31,429 --> 02:53:27,760
and you need to keep everybody alive

4199
02:53:33,429 --> 02:53:31,439
and you're going to do that with fear

4200
02:53:35,269 --> 02:53:33,439
you know monsters in the night that

4201
02:53:37,830 --> 02:53:35,279
you're going to go out and get eaten

4202
02:53:39,830 --> 02:53:37,840
whatever it is this food is good this

4203
02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:39,840
food is bad this food is spoiled don't

4204
02:53:45,269 --> 02:53:42,319
eat that you know and and and

4205
02:53:47,190 --> 02:53:45,279
and it was done then for maybe the right

4206
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:47,200
reasons please understand the way i'm

4207
02:53:51,269 --> 02:53:49,840
trying to frame this for everybody

4208
02:53:53,510 --> 02:53:51,279
but yeah

4209
02:53:58,550 --> 02:53:53,520
society has been

4210
02:54:01,830 --> 02:53:58,560
uh elevated uh to control with fear to

4211
02:54:03,030 --> 02:54:01,840
other levels uh exponentially that's

4212
02:54:05,349 --> 02:54:03,040
crazy

4213
02:54:08,309 --> 02:54:05,359
and that's just where we are today so

4214
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:08,319
yeah i totally agree uh with that david

4215
02:54:15,349 --> 02:54:11,359
um but it is uh

4216
02:54:16,150 --> 02:54:15,359
uh it has been used for so long that

4217
02:54:19,349 --> 02:54:16,160
uh

4218
02:54:22,309 --> 02:54:19,359
the world is used to it and the leaders

4219
02:54:24,309 --> 02:54:22,319
of the world are used to using it

4220
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:24,319
and and that's that's really the truth

4221
02:54:28,230 --> 02:54:26,000
and that's that's where we are today

4222
02:54:30,870 --> 02:54:28,240
that's where we are yeah well well said

4223
02:54:33,510 --> 02:54:30,880
well said and now um can you hear me

4224
02:54:34,790 --> 02:54:33,520
yeah oh yeah we got you we got you um

4225
02:54:36,710 --> 02:54:34,800
there's uh

4226
02:54:40,150 --> 02:54:36,720
there's another part to this though for

4227
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:40,160
me um in in watching the film

4228
02:54:42,389 --> 02:54:40,960
that

4229
02:54:44,630 --> 02:54:42,399
uh

4230
02:54:47,110 --> 02:54:44,640
when you say

4231
02:54:49,590 --> 02:54:47,120
and i think i think it's a great point

4232
02:54:50,469 --> 02:54:49,600
that you've kind of changed your mindset

4233
02:54:54,389 --> 02:54:50,479
now

4234
02:54:56,150 --> 02:54:54,399
where that it's not your job to prove

4235
02:54:57,750 --> 02:54:56,160
but it may be

4236
02:54:59,830 --> 02:54:57,760
your mission

4237
02:55:02,870 --> 02:54:59,840
to help others

4238
02:55:05,990 --> 02:55:02,880
discover things and that's a that's a

4239
02:55:08,710 --> 02:55:06,000
better way to go about it and and not to

4240
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,720
be the one that is uh trying to beat

4241
02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:10,800
somebody over the head and change their

4242
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:11,920
minds

4243
02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:14,000
that you would rather have uh somebody

4244
02:55:17,590 --> 02:55:15,760
come in and experience this for

4245
02:55:19,510 --> 02:55:17,600
themselves

4246
02:55:21,349 --> 02:55:19,520
well yeah look i think if someone's into

4247
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:21,359
it hopefully they would look at my stuff

4248
02:55:24,950 --> 02:55:23,120
and go wow this looks like fun i want to

4249
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:24,960
go experience this and see what and if

4250
02:55:28,309 --> 02:55:26,960
someone's a total skeptic i wouldn't

4251
02:55:30,309 --> 02:55:28,319
bother me at all they were like this guy

4252
02:55:31,910 --> 02:55:30,319
is full of [\h__\h] i'm gonna go find out

4253
02:55:33,429 --> 02:55:31,920
for myself you know and that's what i

4254
02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:33,439
would say i've never had a problem with

4255
02:55:38,870 --> 02:55:35,680
skepticism i get it i think it's

4256
02:55:41,349 --> 02:55:38,880
necessary to get to real evidence

4257
02:55:43,269 --> 02:55:41,359
but i have a problem with blanket

4258
02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:43,279
skepticism without an attempt to

4259
02:55:47,190 --> 02:55:45,359
experience like i would never say oh

4260
02:55:48,870 --> 02:55:47,200
it's easy to fly a plane without ever

4261
02:55:50,710 --> 02:55:48,880
trying to be a pilot i don't know you

4262
02:55:53,349 --> 02:55:50,720
know i've never tried it you know before

4263
02:55:54,950 --> 02:55:53,359
you say you know ghosts aren't real go

4264
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:54,960
find out what happens at 3 a.m in

4265
02:56:00,070 --> 02:55:56,560
chillingham castle in the courtyard i

4266
02:56:02,150 --> 02:56:00,080
know what happens do you go see you know

4267
02:56:03,110 --> 02:56:02,160
if they do that i'm pretty confident i

4268
02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:03,120
know

4269
02:56:08,150 --> 02:56:06,640
what they're gonna experience and i

4270
02:56:10,309 --> 02:56:08,160
think that's the best way to do anything

4271
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:10,319
is to just say to somebody okay if i'm

4272
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:13,120
right or wrong go find out for yourself

4273
02:56:16,870 --> 02:56:15,120
go find out for yourself either way it's

4274
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:16,880
a heck of a journey it's a heck of a

4275
02:56:20,870 --> 02:56:18,640
journey some of the best

4276
02:56:21,750 --> 02:56:20,880
times of my life have been spent doing

4277
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:21,760
this

4278
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:24,720
you know being scared is a drug it's

4279
02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:27,520
like a rush you know being terrified but

4280
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:30,960
also the laughs we have afterwards and

4281
02:56:34,790 --> 02:56:32,880
when you feel like you could touch that

4282
02:56:37,269 --> 02:56:34,800
other side like i said when when you

4283
02:56:39,349 --> 02:56:37,279
have those massive experiences you feel

4284
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:39,359
like that at least i feel like that like

4285
02:56:43,670 --> 02:56:41,520
i was so close

4286
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:43,680
to what that other thing is whatever it

4287
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:46,800
is you know yeah and uh yeah i i'm i'm

4288
02:56:50,950 --> 02:56:48,640
not interested in like

4289
02:56:53,030 --> 02:56:50,960
trying to verbally convince somebody or

4290
02:56:55,910 --> 02:56:53,040
show them of stuff like that's it's kind

4291
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:55,920
in my role you know my role has been to

4292
02:57:02,870 --> 02:56:58,640
document what i experience and share

4293
02:57:08,070 --> 02:57:05,510
really quick um

4294
02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:08,080
what what's the gear that you take we

4295
02:57:12,070 --> 02:57:10,160
just have a couple of minutes left i

4296
02:57:13,429 --> 02:57:12,080
have a certain amount of gear

4297
02:57:14,630 --> 02:57:13,439
what what is it

4298
02:57:18,070 --> 02:57:14,640
that

4299
02:57:19,990 --> 02:57:18,080
you put in your bug out bag when you go

4300
02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:20,000
what are the two or three

4301
02:57:27,110 --> 02:57:23,200
necessary items that anybody can go

4302
02:57:32,469 --> 02:57:29,910
oh oh physical gear yeah i'm super old

4303
02:57:34,710 --> 02:57:32,479
school in the sense that when it comes

4304
02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:34,720
to paranormal evidence i want to hear it

4305
02:57:38,630 --> 02:57:37,120
and see it get yourself your hd camera

4306
02:57:40,870 --> 02:57:38,640
with your night vision

4307
02:57:42,950 --> 02:57:40,880
and and some boosters on it and take

4308
02:57:44,389 --> 02:57:42,960
your wave recorder those two things are

4309
02:57:46,070 --> 02:57:44,399
the most important to me

4310
02:57:48,630 --> 02:57:46,080
but um

4311
02:57:51,349 --> 02:57:48,640
what i've oddly come

4312
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:51,359
to actually appreciate recently i'm

4313
02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:53,279
trying to remember the name of it um

4314
02:57:57,590 --> 02:57:55,600
i've been using it in malvern you'll

4315
02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:57,600
know exactly what it is it's this box

4316
02:58:00,230 --> 02:57:59,359
that sounds like voices are coming from

4317
02:58:02,309 --> 02:58:00,240
hell

4318
02:58:03,830 --> 02:58:02,319
i mean it's like uh but there's no

4319
02:58:06,309 --> 02:58:03,840
static it's like a frank's box but

4320
02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:06,319
there's no static katrina uses it a lot

4321
02:58:09,670 --> 02:58:08,080
with um

4322
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:09,680
my gosh the name of it's right on the

4323
02:58:13,830 --> 02:58:12,000
tip of my tongue because josh heard was

4324
02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:13,840
showing me how to use it um they're

4325
02:58:16,790 --> 02:58:15,359
super expensive though like sixteen

4326
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:16,800
hundred dollars for him do you know what

4327
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:19,200
i'm talking about yeah i do tony rathman

4328
02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:21,840
tony rathman uh builds his own too i

4329
02:58:26,710 --> 02:58:24,160
think it's called the evoc

4330
02:58:29,110 --> 02:58:26,720
um evoc right

4331
02:58:31,030 --> 02:58:29,120
um i like it for this reason not even so

4332
02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:31,040
much of what comes out of it

4333
02:58:36,550 --> 02:58:33,920
what comes out of it is terrifying

4334
02:58:38,230 --> 02:58:36,560
sounding and it just sets the mode like

4335
02:58:39,590 --> 02:58:38,240
i'm a big believer like i said in

4336
02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:39,600
feeling and

4337
02:58:44,790 --> 02:58:42,160
and believing and emotion

4338
02:58:46,790 --> 02:58:44,800
and it's man there's so many times where

4339
02:58:48,150 --> 02:58:46,800
i can tell you where i've gone into a

4340
02:58:51,030 --> 02:58:48,160
place with somebody who's on the same

4341
02:58:52,630 --> 02:58:51,040
page as me and that fear is building and

4342
02:58:54,550 --> 02:58:52,640
and things start happening and then i've

4343
02:58:56,550 --> 02:58:54,560
gone in places with people that are

4344
02:58:57,590 --> 02:58:56,560
total goof-offs and it's like nothing

4345
02:58:59,910 --> 02:58:57,600
happens

4346
02:59:02,790 --> 02:58:59,920
i've done this so much that i am just

4347
02:59:03,750 --> 02:59:02,800
certain that it has so much to do with

4348
02:59:05,429 --> 02:59:03,760
your

4349
02:59:06,950 --> 02:59:05,439
ability to

4350
02:59:09,429 --> 02:59:06,960
or how much you believe in it and your

4351
02:59:11,269 --> 02:59:09,439
willingness to experience it and that

4352
02:59:13,910 --> 02:59:11,279
that box

4353
02:59:16,389 --> 02:59:13,920
it just man it sets a tone that is so

4354
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:16,399
terrifying plus it's quiet

4355
02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:18,560
it stuff feeds off fear yeah plus it's

4356
02:59:23,590 --> 02:59:20,479
quiet and then all of a sudden the voice

4357
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:23,600
jumps out and yeah

4358
02:59:30,469 --> 02:59:26,720
yeah yeah it's crazy yeah absolutely and

4359
02:59:34,790 --> 02:59:30,479
i i do like the evps and i've i've been

4360
02:59:38,309 --> 02:59:34,800
on uh i was just at uh uh the lapd

4361
02:59:40,469 --> 02:59:38,319
police museum um in uh it's like las

4362
02:59:42,630 --> 02:59:40,479
vegas yeah yeah pretty pretty that's an

4363
02:59:45,590 --> 02:59:42,640
interesting building by the way so i'm

4364
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:45,600
down in the basement um in in in that

4365
02:59:49,030 --> 02:59:48,080
tunnel in the evidence hall they call it

4366
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:49,040
tunnel

4367
02:59:53,750 --> 02:59:52,000
but uh so i'm down there and it's myself

4368
02:59:56,550 --> 02:59:53,760
susan slaughter there's a third person

4369
02:59:59,190 --> 02:59:56,560
there maybe a fourth but it's very quiet

4370
03:00:00,309 --> 02:59:59,200
it's you know it's it's in the basement

4371
03:00:02,230 --> 03:00:00,319
and

4372
03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:02,240
we're recording with the evp but the

4373
03:00:06,950 --> 03:00:04,720
point is with the digital recorder

4374
03:00:09,190 --> 03:00:06,960
it's very quiet and it's the four of us

4375
03:00:10,870 --> 03:00:09,200
standing right next to each other and

4376
03:00:12,710 --> 03:00:10,880
we're asking questions and playing it

4377
03:00:13,670 --> 03:00:12,720
back immediately

4378
03:00:14,630 --> 03:00:13,680
um

4379
03:00:17,110 --> 03:00:14,640
wow

4380
03:00:19,429 --> 03:00:17,120
right and i'm i'm i'm like i can hear my

4381
03:00:21,990 --> 03:00:19,439
voice ask the question

4382
03:00:24,150 --> 03:00:22,000
and then it's it's dead quiet right and

4383
03:00:25,750 --> 03:00:24,160
then we stop the record and there's

4384
03:00:28,469 --> 03:00:25,760
stuff there

4385
03:00:31,429 --> 03:00:28,479
when i know i'm standing there and i

4386
03:00:34,309 --> 03:00:31,439
know there's nothing going on

4387
03:00:36,710 --> 03:00:34,319
and it's captured and i'm not sure

4388
03:00:38,630 --> 03:00:36,720
what it is i i don't know how it happens

4389
03:00:40,389 --> 03:00:38,640
but it does

4390
03:00:41,910 --> 03:00:40,399
the constantinos were good friends of

4391
03:00:44,070 --> 03:00:41,920
mine god bless them

4392
03:00:45,990 --> 03:00:44,080
yes um and i used to go out with them

4393
03:00:47,510 --> 03:00:46,000
and man they would do the same thing

4394
03:00:50,389 --> 03:00:47,520
they ripped their thing i mean i would

4395
03:00:52,309 --> 03:00:50,399
be like i was here man

4396
03:00:55,269 --> 03:00:52,319
that voice shouldn't be here they were

4397
03:00:58,309 --> 03:00:55,279
they were so good at it they were so

4398
03:00:59,990 --> 03:00:58,319
good so good so what's up i've got 45

4399
03:01:02,950 --> 03:01:00,000
seconds what are you doing next after

4400
03:01:04,230 --> 03:01:02,960
this film what's what's what's next up

4401
03:01:06,790 --> 03:01:04,240
um

4402
03:01:08,389 --> 03:01:06,800
i have a film called uh house of the

4403
03:01:11,030 --> 03:01:08,399
harbinger kingdom

4404
03:01:13,190 --> 03:01:11,040
which is probably the most different

4405
03:01:16,230 --> 03:01:13,200
thing that i've ever done

4406
03:01:17,990 --> 03:01:16,240
um it's not in any way like a part two

4407
03:01:21,110 --> 03:01:18,000
of like american ghost hunter but it

4408
03:01:22,710 --> 03:01:21,120
does kind of deal with something that i

4409
03:01:24,469 --> 03:01:22,720
experienced and realized through my

4410
03:01:26,070 --> 03:01:24,479
father's passing my father passed away

4411
03:01:28,550 --> 03:01:26,080
of april last year

4412
03:01:31,110 --> 03:01:28,560
and uh it was a really

4413
03:01:32,630 --> 03:01:31,120
painful thing for me but through that

4414
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:32,640
experience

4415
03:01:37,590 --> 03:01:34,399
there was something

4416
03:01:39,590 --> 03:01:37,600
that i recognized about that area and i

4417
03:01:40,790 --> 03:01:39,600
i want to tell the story so bad it was

4418
03:01:43,269 --> 03:01:40,800
something my father and i were actually

4419
03:01:44,790 --> 03:01:43,279
working on and uh so that's the next

4420
03:01:46,950 --> 03:01:44,800
thing i'm gonna do i'm hoping to be

4421
03:01:49,670 --> 03:01:46,960
shooting by the end of february

4422
03:01:51,030 --> 03:01:49,680
and thankfully australia is finally

4423
03:01:52,710 --> 03:01:51,040
opening up because craig and i have

4424
03:01:54,230 --> 03:01:52,720
continued to document

4425
03:01:56,070 --> 03:01:54,240
all of the weird stuff that's been going

4426
03:01:58,870 --> 03:01:56,080
on he's been going through a hell of a

4427
03:01:59,990 --> 03:01:58,880
time and australia in general has been

4428
03:02:02,550 --> 03:02:00,000
like

4429
03:02:03,990 --> 03:02:02,560
martial law madness over there

4430
03:02:05,590 --> 03:02:04,000
and uh

4431
03:02:08,150 --> 03:02:05,600
look i want to get back there as soon as

4432
03:02:09,429 --> 03:02:08,160
possible to finish up that that docu

4433
03:02:11,510 --> 03:02:09,439
series so

4434
03:02:13,750 --> 03:02:11,520
but yeah in the meantime 74 minutes is

4435
03:02:15,910 --> 03:02:13,760
out there i hope you all check it out

4436
03:02:18,070 --> 03:02:15,920
like you said it's on aghtelevision.com

4437
03:02:19,750 --> 03:02:18,080
it's five dollars cheaper there than on

4438
03:02:22,389 --> 03:02:19,760
uh vimeo on demand

4439
03:02:24,710 --> 03:02:22,399
and uh that's 25 years of my life man

4440
03:02:27,269 --> 03:02:24,720
into one film you know pretty crazy

4441
03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:27,279
thank you so much chad happy new year to

4442
03:02:31,429 --> 03:02:30,080
you you look great and i'll talk to you

4443
03:02:33,830 --> 03:02:31,439
first thing in the morning man have a

4444
03:02:35,190 --> 03:02:33,840
great night thank you so much

4445
03:02:36,950 --> 03:02:35,200
thank you my friend i'll talk to you

4446
03:02:39,990 --> 03:02:36,960
soon what a great show tonight great

4447
03:02:42,070 --> 03:02:40,000
conversation and we do have the links up

4448
03:02:46,309 --> 03:02:42,080
right there in social media it's in the

4449
03:02:47,910 --> 03:02:46,319
chat room agh television.com

4450
03:02:51,030 --> 03:02:47,920
i'm your host jimmy church what a great

4451
03:02:52,550 --> 03:02:51,040
night tonight with chad too long

4452
03:02:55,349 --> 03:02:52,560
too long

4453
03:02:57,510 --> 03:02:55,359
fade to black is produced by hilton j

4454
03:03:00,070 --> 03:02:57,520
palm renee dennis and kevin

4455
03:03:02,150 --> 03:03:00,080
announcers are steve harter jean vitto a

4456
03:03:04,710 --> 03:03:02,160
mark d kobar webmasters drew the geek

4457
03:03:06,790 --> 03:03:04,720
music doug aldridge intros spaceboy

4458
03:03:08,790 --> 03:03:06,800
spaceboymusic.com

4459
03:03:10,309 --> 03:03:08,800
fade to black is produced by kjc over

4460
03:03:13,110 --> 03:03:10,319
the game changer network this broadcast

4461
03:03:14,870 --> 03:03:13,120
owned a copyrighted 2022 by fade to

4462
03:03:16,710 --> 03:03:14,880
black and the game changer network inc

4463
03:03:18,230 --> 03:03:16,720
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4464
03:03:20,389 --> 03:03:18,240
copied or used anywhere in the known

4465
03:03:21,590 --> 03:03:20,399
universe without written permission from

4466
03:03:23,110 --> 03:03:21,600
fade to block of the game change your

4467
03:03:25,910 --> 03:03:23,120
network army's chimney church tomorrow

4468
03:03:28,309 --> 03:03:25,920
night no fader night because we have

4469
03:03:32,150 --> 03:03:28,319
linda moulton howe

4470
03:03:38,290 --> 03:03:32,160
until then i want everybody to be safe